Sunday, April 23, 2006

Eliminating all checks against lawbreaking

Deliberately obscured in the furor over the CIA's firing of Mary McCarthy is that she was fired for disclosing conduct on the part of our government which is plainly illegal, highly disturbing, and further reflective of the lowly and authoritarian levels to which the U.S. has descended under the Bush administration. What the story by Dana Priest revealed is that our government maintains secret prisons beyond the reach of the law, inspections by human rights organizations, and the knowledge of Congress or any other oversight body. Anyone who is kept in them is, by definition, disappeared and almost certainly tortured. How could it be anything but legitimate to reveal that our government is engaged in this behavior?

As Priest's original article reported:


The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe . . . .

The CIA and the White House, citing national security concerns and the value of the program, have dissuaded Congress from demanding that the agency answer questions in open testimony about the conditions under which captives are held. Virtually nothing is known about who is kept in the facilities, what interrogation methods are employed with them, or how decisions are made about whether they should be detained or for how long. . . .

Although the CIA will not acknowledge details of its system, intelligence officials defend the agency's approach, arguing that the successful defense of the country requires that the agency be empowered to hold and interrogate suspected terrorists for as long as necessary and without restrictions imposed by the U.S. legal system or even by the military tribunals established for prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay. . . .

It is illegal for the government to hold prisoners in such isolation in secret prisons in the United States, which is why the CIA placed them overseas, according to several former and current intelligence officials and other U.S. government officials. Legal experts and intelligence officials said that the CIA's internment practices also would be considered illegal under the laws of several host countries, where detainees have rights to have a lawyer or to mount a defense against allegations of wrongdoing.

Host countries have signed the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, as has the United States. Yet CIA interrogators in the overseas sites are permitted to use the CIA's approved "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques," some of which are prohibited by the U.N. convention and by U.S. military law. They include tactics such as "waterboarding," in which a prisoner is made to believe he or she is drowning. . . .

Since then, the arrangement has been increasingly debated within the CIA, where considerable concern lingers about the legality, morality and practicality of holding even unrepentant terrorists in such isolation and secrecy, perhaps for the duration of their lives. Mid-level and senior CIA officers began arguing two years ago that the system was unsustainable and diverted the agency from its unique espionage mission.


Who could possibly argue that if the U.S. is going to become a country which disappears people -- based purely on suspected guilt -- into secret gulags and torture chambers, indefinitely, beyond the reach of the law or any oversight, that we should not at least have a democratic debate about whether we really want to become that kind of a country? The Congress passed a law overwhelmingly at the end of 2005 banning all forms of torture -- a law which was enacted only in response to unauthorized leaks which revealed the scope, frequency and magnitude of our torture practices. Just fathom all of the secret, illegal policies which would be ongoing and unknown had leakers not existed.

That is what the Bush administration is so angry about -- that leaks of this sort constitute the last remaining check on their power to act without constraints of any kind, including those imposed by law, and it is why they are waging war on it. This is nothing more than the latest effort to vest in the Bush administration the power to act without legal or moral limits of any kind, in total secrecy, in violation of laws and treaties, and in contravention of the values and mores that have long defined who we are as a nation.

That is why the CIA Director installed by the White House does not have as his top priority combating terrorism or finding Osama bin Laden, but instead, is focused first and foremost on stopping leaks. They are the one thing left that provides any meaningful check on this government.

Always missing from any of the outrage over these great breaches of our national security is any specific explanation as to how national security has been harmed. When the CIA attempted to dissuade the Post from publishing the story, the rationale they invoked was not that the disclosure would harm national security -- how could it? -- but that the disclosure would subject them to political embarrassment and force them to operate within the law:

While the Defense Department has produced volumes of public reports and testimony about its detention practices and rules after the abuse scandals at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison and at Guantanamo Bay, the CIA has not even acknowledged the existence of its black sites. To do so, say officials familiar with the program, could open the U.S. government to legal challenges, particularly in foreign courts, and increase the risk of political condemnation at home and abroad. . . .

Note as well how vigilant Priest was to keep concealed all information which might actually harm national security:

The Washington Post is not publishing the names of the Eastern European countries involved in the covert program, at the request of senior U.S. officials. They argued that the disclosure might disrupt counterterrorism efforts in those countries and elsewhere and could make them targets of possible terrorist retaliation.

Just as they did with the NSA eavesdropping program -- where the Times, after a year-long delay, disclosed only the existence of the program but not its operational details -- the media goes out of its way to avoid disclosure of any operational details or other information would could result in national security harm. They disclose only the minimum information necessary to inform Americans of the highly controversial and likely illegal behavior on the part of our government. And yet Bush followers still swarm with demands that those responsible for these disclosures be imprisoned.

Holding people in secret, unknown prisons with no legal recourse or monitoring of any kind is what the most evil totalitarian regimes do. That is not something, historically at least, which the United States does. But if it is going to be something we do, then we should at least have a debate about that. But that is exactly what the Bush administration and its followers want to eliminate -- debate, oversight over their actions, limitations of any kind. They want to be able not only to disappear people, torture people, eavesdrop on us illegally, and break every law and treaty they can find -- but they want to be able to do it all in secret, without it being known that they are doing it.

That is why they are spending so more time and energy fortifying the wall of secrecy around what they are doing -- waging war on every last check and restraint on their conduct. They believe that they ought to have the power to operate in total secrecy and without any restraints, and it is not hyperbole to say that leaks of this sort are one of the very last things that stand in their way.

26 comments:

  1. Exactly, Glenn. You get right to the crux of this issue – the secrecy.

    But why is secrecy necessary? Why did Mary McCarthy get really get fired? Why is this a story?

    The Washington Post article about Mary McCarthy provides the obvious answer: Bush policies. Let’s take a look, and answer “why” this is happening, and why secrecy is so important.

    1) The Bush administration views leaks much differently than all previous administrations where there were also leaks. No one can even recall a similar sanction against a CIA employee in decades. Why? Because this administration views leaks that harm Bush as “threats to National Security” – Bush’s approval ratings are a national security issue as far as this secretive cabal is concerned, and that’s why the issue is treated so much differently by them.

    2) How did this leak harm “National Security”? Well, it harmed our relations with our allies and their intelligence services. And why is that? Because they don’t approve of the tactics we are using (kidnapping, torture, murder), and apparently, we’ve lied to them too. So, if the administration had been acting in a way that wouldn’t disgust our allies, there wouldn’t have been a problem – we would have been working with them, not keeping secrets. Again, it’s the policy that is the problem – not the leak.

    3) Bush-worshippers rely on a fantasy that if any crimes were committed they would be properly investigated and the perpetrators charged. They dismiss any notion of a cover-up or a rigged investigation to protect higher-ups, although there is quite a bit of evidence from Abu Graib and elsewhere that that is precisely what may have happened.

    Larry Johnson, who worked for Mary in the CIA, speculated that she may have concluded that the investigation was "a whitewash, and why not tell the press? . . . I am struck by the irony that Mary McCarthy may have been fired for blowing the whistle and ensuring the truth about an abuse was told to the American people."

    What if these investigations were a whitewash? Bush-worshippers just say that can’t possibly be true, and that we must trust Bush and accept his version of events, even though there’s ample evidence that they’ve been lying and selectively interpreting information to suit their political goals. Why should we trust them on this?

    4) Why is the Bush adminstration at war with the CIA? The answer is that they have abused, misused, and dishonestly used intelligence resources and reports. If they had been honest, and based their polices on honest intelligence, they wouldn’t be having these problems with long-time CIA employees. Again, that is why this administration is acting so different than all other administrations: their polices are entirely dishonest.

    5) Not only have Bush policies been based upon dishonesty, they are also illegal – or at least many in the CIA thought that was true. Some CIA officials refused to attend the meeting on the policy of kidnapping suspected terrorists (“rendition”) because they though it was illegal, and if Congress ever held real investigations, they could be charged with crimes. In other words, they thought Bush policies were possibly criminal. And for good reason.

    6) Bush appointed a Republican partisan loyal to him as head of the CIA, and now that loyalist, rather than handing over a leak investigation to the Justice Department, is conducting an unprecedented purge of people based upon their loyalty to Bush and his polices.

    Is it illegal or unethical to have a friend who works in the media? You would think so, because under Porter Goss, applicants to the CIA are aggressively questioned on this.

    Is it illegal or unethical to be a member of the Democratic Party, or have voted Democratic in past elections? You would think so because the CIA is now pursuing the political affiliations of its intelligence officers with a barrage of questions.

    Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Democratic Party? Have you ever voted against George Bush? Are these questions legitimate in a healthy democracy? If so, why?

    In conclusion, all of these unprecedented tactics, purges, investigations, and problems derive from the illegal, criminal, dishonest polices of this administration.

    It is those polices that are causing harm to our national security, our relations with allies, the press, Congress and the public. It is these policies and their criminal and un-American nature which have forced this administration to pursue such secrecy and intolerance of opposing views.

    That’s what this story is all about – and let’s not forget that.

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  2. Anonymous10:22 AM

    Glenn:
    Holding people in secret, unknown prisons with no legal recourse or monitoring of any kind is what the most evil totalitarian regimes do. That is not something, historically at least, which the United States does. But if it is going to be something we do, then we should at least have a debate about that.

    I hope that is a really fucking short debate.

    What is this shit?

    We hold these truths to be self-evident...that all men are created equal...that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...

    How does that add up to ...

    If we think that at one time you might have: had lunch at the same table at; gone to the same house of worship as; or sent your child to the same school as; someone who someone else we tortured thinks might at one time have been thinking bad things about King George II, then you have waived your rights to freedom, council, due process, and human dignity, because some assholes put us in danger a few years ago?

    These friggin idiots in Washington are selling our soul to the Devil and calling it national defense.

    Does anyone have any confidence that the people they are locking up are being convincingly vetted as terrorists? Who is deciding this? The same Department of Homeland Security that has left a million dollars worth of trailers designated for Katrina victims sitting at an abandoned military air field in Arkansas for the last year? The same Central intelligence Agency that was 100% sure that Saddam had WMD? The same National Security Agency that can't manage to figure out who to get a warrant on to wiretap, so they just tap everybody and hope they get the right guy?

    These people are so incompetent it is truly truly fightening.

    How is that if we are justified in unwarranted arrest, detention, transport, and torture, that we are any better than that asshole Hussein?

    And the people who are liable for this are somehow the ones who tell? How juvenile and guilty is that?

    Excuse my French, this just really pissed me off this morning.

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  3. Abu Ghraib was the worst foreign policy disaster of my lifetime, even worse than the recent Iraq invasion.

    When the extraordinary rendition flights first popped up in the press, I noted for a column how widely they were covered in newspapers around the world. People from Hong Kong to London, including the Islamic world, were reading about our "torture flights." Now they read about "secret prisons" and wonder, are Bush and company fighting terrorists, breeding them, or becoming them?

    Before the McCain anti-tiorture amendment, the U.S. House overwhelmingly passed an amendment by Democrat Edward Markey of Massachusetts denying Iraq supplemental funds for extraordinary renditions. Markey noted at tha time (as others have warned since), "The war against terrorism is a war against those who engage in torture. If we fight our enemy using the same inhumane and morally bankrupt techniques that we are trying to stop, we will simply become what we have beheld."

    That horse has left the barn.

    Maybe America should declare a war on secrecy.

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  4. My friends and I were discussing emigrating yesterday. Between the terrorist attacks Bush is going to provoke and their insane crackdowns on peaceful opposition, we're not sure how safe we are in this country anymore. I never thought I'd say that about this country.

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  5. Undercover Blue, you reminded me of a scary quote I read. This is from a document document “written in 1954 by a special committee formed to advise the President on covert activities,” as citedin the Church Committe Interim Report, which was on the CIA's secret and illegal assassination policies:

    “another important requirement is an aggressive covert psychological, political and paramilitary organization far more effective, more unique, and, if necessary, more ruthless than that employed by the enemy. No one should be permitted to stand in the way of the prompt, efficient, and secure accomplishment of this mission.
    “The second consideration, it is now clear that we are facing an implacable enemy whose avowed objective is world domlnatlon by whatever means at whatever cost. There are no rules in such a game. Hitherto acceptable norms of human conduct do not apply. If the US. is to survive, long standing American concepts of American fair play must be reconsidered."


    A couple pages later, the authors of the Church Report wrote the following:

    The United States must not adopt the tactics of the enemy. Means are as important, as ends. Crisis makes it tempting to ignore the wise restraints that make men free. But each time we do so, each time the means we use are wrong, our inner strength, the strength which makes us free, is lessened.
    Despite our distaste for what we have seen, we have great faith in this country. The story is sad, but this country has the strength to hear the story and to learn from it. We must remain a people who confront our mistakes and resolve not to repeat them. If we do not, we will decline ; but, if we do, our future will be worthy of the best of our past.


    I think those quotes speak for themselves; I'm not going to add anything.

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  6. Larry Johnson who says he worked for McCarthy for 2 years points out that her access to this information likely came from her involvement with the inspector general's office.

    Mid-level and senior CIA officers began arguing two years ago that the system was unsustainable and diverted the agency from its unique espionage mission. (from the NYT story quoted in the post)

    This quotation supports that contention. Larry says this:

    I've heard through the grapevine that she was attending the seminar for officers who are retiring while working with the Inspector General (IG). Now things get interesting. She could find out about secret prisons if Intelligence Officers involved with that program had filed a complaint with the IG or if there was some incident that compelled senior CIA officials to determine an investigation was warranted. In other words, this program did not come to Mary's attention (if the allegations are true) because she worked on it as an ops officer. Instead, it appears an investigation of the practice had been proposed or was underway.

    There's something kinda broken about a secret oversight process, but at least there is an oversight process internal to the agency. Larry's theory makes a lot of sense, because it explains not just this case, but the repeated reports that the CIA rank and file is very unhappy with the politicization of the agency under Goss.

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  7. Argh. Sorry. Dana Priest writes for the Post.

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  8. Nick said:
    Excuse my French, this just really pissed me off this morning.

    Not to change the subject but, a small aside....

    I live in Alabama and work for a civil rights center. On April 19---this past Wednesday---I was walking to work and happened to pass a newspaper stand. The headline of the local newspaper screamed a dual message. On the left side of the page was a photo of Bush, the divider/decider, and a story about his visit that day to Tuskegee University. The subject of his sermon? SCIENCE (That's right, SCIENCE.). On the right side of the page, in BIG, bold letters: WE'RE SORRY, ROSA!

    Would you like to know what that front page said to me? Among a host of many other things, it said:

    WE'RE SORRY, ROSA! BUT FU*K YOU!

    Excuse me while I vomit.

    Tuskegee University is now on my sh*t list. Oh, so is Maxwell AFB. The "great one" came through there in order to get to Tuskegee. Ewwwwww.....VOMIT.

    This must be the revulsion Paul Krugman talked about.

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  9. Anonymous1:45 PM

    Good post again, Glenn,

    Nick, you have put your finger on something worth discussing. Putting aside the unethical and anti-American behavior of the current administration (difficult, I know), the present group has put America in a precarious position.

    We are running deeper into debt, breeding terrorism abroad, inciting WWIII, alienating our allies, etc., etc. America is not invulnerable; we all know this, and we are daily reaping further ill-will and economic hardship. Bushco has literally put our nation at greater peril.

    The clear and present danger is what damage this cabal can do from here on out. I do not trust them to handle a 7-11, let alone prosecute another war in Iran, negotiate with China, participate in economic summits. We are all too aware of the eloquence and clear thinking they have demonstrated in the past.

    And Undercover Blue, after the last "election," I, too, thought about leaving (and was glad to go to Ireland for a week--so refreshing to not hear about America), but to do so only turns this country and its legacy over to the criminals. I like this place, so I think it's worth sticking around and defending. Most, the large majority, are good folks. The upper 1% rules us and they are the cause of our worldly woes.

    Case in point: I took part in some sign holding yesterday, and you'd be surprised how many honks, waves, and cheers we received. Well over 2/3 were supportive.

    So don't leave. This is our country.

    One last point: all religious types that voted this administration in (after praying, no doubt) should be forced to examine the efficacy of their faith and its mechanisms. As Dr. Phil would say: "how's that working out for you?"

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  10. Anonymous3:17 PM

    Just an aside --Lott told reporters the information in the Post story was the same as that given to Republican senators in a closed-door briefing by Vice President Dick Cheney last week.

    "Every word that was said in there went right to the newspaper," he said. "We can't keep our mouths shut."

    Lott, a former Senate majority leader who was pushed out in 2002, suggested the information was passed along by a senator to a staff member.

    He said the investigation Frist and Hastert want may result in an ethics probe of a Senate member.

    From CNN last November link

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  11. Anonymous6:50 PM

    Glenn writes: without legal or moral limits of any kind.

    That's it in a nutshell, and why I go around in a state of permanent outrage.

    I was lucky enough to be born in the single greatest country in the world and now I find myself living in a county without legal or moral limits of any kind.

    This is quite an adjustment being asked of us.

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  12. Anonymous7:22 PM

    Yeah! Nick (a person after my own heart) gets it right.

    Why are we even talking with these moral pygmies who want to discuss the nuances of this or that law and allege partisan conspiracies when those things are entirely beside the point now?

    We are under "Martial Lawlessness" in this country.

    Why aren't we marching in the streets to protest the real terrorists who have taken over this country?

    Nick is right. How the hell did they slip this whole "torture" thing by the American public and why is everyone in the press and government being so damn compliant about this totally mindblowing, twilight zone, Kafkaesque, Orwellian, Stalinest, Hitlerish, throw Muslims to the lions, V is for Vendetta whole enterprise?

    Who are these aliens who condone torture? We're talking about torture.

    And not even for national security, which would be bad enough, but because these depraved monsters are a bunch of sexual perverts and sociopathic sadists who get their rocks off humiliating, debasing and torturing people they regard as their playthings and throw-away human beings.

    What is this? The USA? Or Deliverance Country?

    Time to take off the velvet gloves here and identify the total moral bankruptcy of this whole corrupt Government, both houses and all their mean, cruel, sadistic supporters, both Republicans and Democrats.

    I tell you the truth. At this point a part of me would rather see Harry Belfonte as President than anyone of either party, except Sen. Feingold.

    Forget about economic theory. This Government lost me at the word "torture."

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  13. Anonymous7:52 PM

    For a country that prides itself on being an open, transparent society, it's amazing how virulent and persistent is this compulsion to find excuses and reasons why we have to act like the totalitarians we oppose.

    Everything changed after 9/11 they say. Bullshit. The EXACT same claims were made about the implacable, utterly amoral and ruthless Soviets. According to these same people or their moral forebears, that enemy required us to give up all liberty and civil restraint too. Somehow we managed to survive without doing so, despite these people. But that's still what they want, and they'll keep looking for reasons sufficiently compelling to get us there.

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  14. Anonymous10:57 PM

    Secrete prisons, torture, punishing political enemies, propaganda, labeling of people, separate and distinct interpretation of laws, widening gaps in income and it's power, election inconsistencies, black and white assessment of issues with corresponding black or white solutions, making impotent the balancing branches of governance, a primary leader that continuously references their position as the top military person, suspicion of it's citizenry (NSA, haven't heard much there lately), agencies that provide the answers wanted....can you tell me who I am?

    You know, currently there are only 2 things that make us different from those countries described above. First, we don't have a fence at both borders. Not yet anyway. Second, various religions were outlawed in those countries we seem to be emulating as oppose to being the final justification for our president's actions.

    Why is this posting by Glenn not as popular as the others?

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  15. Anonymous11:22 PM

    One of the interesting points is that one of the items, the one specified as a felony, that the NSA was directed by the President to spy on American citizens without warrant, is not in dispute.

    This is from that Illinois Impeachment proposal.

    Ah ha. And so we come right back to our own Glenn Greenwald and to Sen. Russ Feingold!

    The President broke the law!

    Funny how the chickens always come home to roost and the swallows go back to Capistrano.

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  16. Anonymous11:29 PM

    To disenchanted dave:

    I've been meaning to comment for a few days now that I find you to be one of the most enchanting people one could ever encounter.

    Your intelligence, your passion, your huge sympathy for all underdogs, your fairness and your love of justice are just so darn lovable. Plus there is a real innocence to your spirit that a country having to rebuild itself is going to need.

    Don't go. We'll all save this country in time, and I predict really great things for you in life because you are such a spectacularly gifted human being.

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  17. Anonymous11:56 PM

    divorced, this post of Glenn's is popular but as Glenn wrote two posts today, most people posted on the second one.

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  18. Anonymous12:18 AM

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    the National Security Agency to violate provisions of the 1978
    Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a felony, specifically
    authorizing the Agency to spy on American citizens without
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    violation of the Torture Convention of the Geneva Conventions,
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    billions of dollars in unnecessary expenses; and

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  19. EWO, that's some of the highest praise I've heard in quite some time. If you want to contact me directly, you can always find my email and AOL screenname on my profile (click the blue text at the top of this comment with my name).

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  20. I have a post up about the impeachment thing EWO just posted, and I emailed it to Glenn. The legal issues involved are pretty obscure, so he should be able to handle it much better than I did. Until he writes a post, you may want to read this: Bush could be impeached by... Illinois?

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  21. What galls me is not the atrocious behavior of the current administration, but rather the overwhelming apathy toward it on the part of the American public. What has happened to us? Where are the protests?

    Politicians have been pulling this crap for years, but when the ruling party dupes the working poor into supporting policies which are detrimental to their own interest, this, I hate to say, is what you get.

    "Everyone is created equal. Some are just more equal than others."

    George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

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  22. Anonymous7:23 AM

    Divorced one like Bush said...

    You know, currently there are only 2 things that make us different from those countries described above. First, we don't have a fence at both borders.

    There is one big difference between the fences in those other countries and the ones some are proposing to build here. The fences in those other countries were built to keep their citizens in, not to keep others out.

    I will grant you though that under Bush they could end up serving the same purpose here.

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  23. Anonymous7:37 AM

    Alexandria, Va. - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice leaked national defense information to a pro-Israel lobbyist in the same manner that landed a lower-level Pentagon official a 12-year prison sentence, the lobbyist's lawyer said Friday.

    The indictment against Rosen and Weissman alleges that three government officials leaked sensitive and sometimes classified national defense information to the two, who subsequently revealed what they learned to the press and to an Israeli government official.

    One of the three government officials is former Pentagon official Lawrence A. Franklin, who pleaded guilty to providing classified defense information to Rosen and Weissman and was sentenced to more than 12 years in prison.

    Wonder what our resident trolls will recomend for Condi? Especially since Bart made a big deal out of claiming to not be partisan on the issue.

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  24. Anonymous10:10 AM

    disenchanted dave, I already do check your blog every day. It's one of my three favorite blogs on the Internet.

    Now I see you have a new piece up sympathy which addresses my single favorite topic.

    I also wrote about that same concept recently, although nowhere near as eloquently as you do.

    I call the quality "empathy" rather than sympathy, however, because I believe to get to the highest level of compassion for all sensient beings, you must start with sympathy and then graduate to a more profound recognition of why it is immoral to treat others any differently than you yourself want to be treated.

    I also have always thought that this is what the Golden Rule is all about and I think the Golden Rule is the basis of all morality.

    A rational person will of course also have to deal with the question of what are rational ways to be want to be treated.

    But pain and suffering go beyond specific ideas of what one believes are rational expectations of what one is properly entitled to expect from others.

    It's interesting you write that article about sympathy because the questions you address are the ones I personally think are at the very core of what is wrong with America today.

    All of the most rotten things happening, from torture, to wanton killing, to the degradation of other human beings, to invasions of privacy, to the annihilation of individual rights, can be traced to a lack of empathy for others and a duplicitous moral double standard.

    BTW, I think you did a great job on that Illinois impeachment article.

    It would seem that if it is in fact a right of any state, and it fails to pass in Illinois, all it would take to proceed with an impeachment process is one state out of 50 voting to pass such a resolution.

    It's scary to think there may not even be one state patriotic enough to do that.

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  25. Anonymous1:06 PM

    When did we become El Salvador?

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  26. EWO, thanks for the praise. It's probably better to discuss my blog in my own comments section so we don't clutter up Glenn's. It's also more likely I'll see your posts there.

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