In her Sunday column--entitled "Al Gore's Convenient Fiction"--Debra Saunders dredges up a highly personal and completely baseless story meant to impugn Al Gore's integrity. Saunders writes:
Just 10 years ago, Gore told the DemocraticSaunders then explains:
National Convention that after his sister Nancy's
needless death in 1984 from lung cancer, he
committed himself "heart and soul into the cause
of protecting our children from the dangers of
smoking." In his new film, Gore again dredges up his
sister's death and how it led his once tobacco-
growing family to turn away from tobacco.
After the DNC speech, reporters with memories
intervened. America learned that contrary to his
rhetoric, in 1988 Gore campaigned as a tobacco
farmer who told his brethren that "all of my life," I
hoed it, chopped it, shredded it, "put it in the barn
and stripped it and sold it." The year his sister died,
Gore helped the industry by fighting efforts to put
the words "death" and "addiction" on cigarette-
warning labels.
Let me be clear: The problem with Gore is not thatBut there's a problem with Saunders' story. It completely misrepresents what Gore said in his 1996 speech. Saunders writes "Gore told the Democratic National Convention that after his sister Nancy's needless death in 1984 from lung cancer, he committed himself 'heart and soul into the cause of protecting our children from the dangers of smoking.'" This sentence is clearly intended to convey to the reader that Gore claimed to have made this commitment the moment his sister died.
he is a hypocrite. The problem with Gore is that
he has no idea he is not Lancelot. He has this scary
ability to block out any facts that make him less
than a perfect, selfless eco-hero, and in his need to
present himself as the world's savior, he'll say
anything -- no matter how hysterical.
But here's what Gore actually said in his speech, after describing the ordeal his sister went through:
Tomorrow morning another 13-year-old girl willNotice that Gore clearly made this pledge to the audience, that night, in the future tense. He was not claiming to have made such a pledge the moment his sister died, as Saunders' column falsely implies. She took the quote from his speech entirely out of context.
start smoking. I love her, too. Three thousand
young people in America will start smoking
tomorrow. One thousand of them will die a death
not unlike my sister's, and that is why, until I
draw my last breath, I will pour my heart and soul
into the cause of protecting our children from the
dangers of smoking.
In fact, Gore acknowledged candidly at the time that it took quite a while for the meaning of his sister's death to sink in. A New York Times article published the day after his convention speech noted:
Mr. Gore said today that he ''felt a numbness'' afterAnd while the article discussed Gore's slow evolution on tobacco issues during his political career, it also noted, contra-Saunders, that "[a]fter his sister died, Mr. Gore became an ardent Congressional proponent for cigarette warning labels"*(see postscript). So Saunder's smear is completely baseless. Gore never claimed to have had an epiphany at his sister's deathbed. He candidly admitted that his thinking evolved over time as the meaning of her death became clearer to him.
his sister's death that made it hard to translate her
illness into personal and policy decisions. ''It takes
time to fully absorb the most important lessons in
life,'' he told reporters at a luncheon today.
Saunders' column is merely the latest in a long line of manufactured stories intended to portray Al Gore as dishonest or prone to exaggeration. However, the fact that these stories are made up has not stopped them from gaining currency. Most Americans would be quite surprised to learn, for example, that Al Gore never actually claimed to have "invented the internet."
Often these stories are the handiwork of partisans like Saunders and are carelessly repeated by the mainstream media, eventually becoming the accepted truth. But, as Bob Somerby of the Daily Howler has exhaustively chronicled, many of the stories about Gore were not invented by partisan apparatchiks, but instead by mainstream media scribes and, occasionally, self-proclaimed "liberal" columnists and pundits.
What happens, as near as I can tell, is that through some combination of intentional partisan framing by political operatives and the press corps' pre-existing feelings toward a candidate, a narrative is born. In the case of Gore, particularly in the 1999-2000 timeframe, these two forces combined to form a sort of perfect storm. The press never really liked Gore, and his political opponents were determined to portray him as dishonest and inauthentic. As a result, the narrative of Gore as serial exaggerator emerged. Any inaccurate statement he ever made, no matter how innocent or trivial, was trotted out as evidence of Gore's pathological need to inflate his own importance. When someone offered forth a new example that fit this narrative, it was uncritically accepted as true and repeated endlessly, even if Gore had never in fact made the statement in question.
And this phenomenon sometimes works against Republicans too. Remember Dan Quayle? Though I'm sure Quayle is no genius, he is certainly not the dunce that he was mercilessly portrayed as in the media. But that was the prevailing media narrative, so any story, no matter how trivial, was trotted out as evidence of Quayle's utter stupidity. Though many of the most embarrassing stories and quotes turned out to be inaccurate, as with Gore, no one ever bothered to report it. The damage was done, the conventional wisdom had congealed.
Once the media has settled on a narrative, it is very hard to change it. Al Gore's recent re-emergence into the national spotlight has resulted in some uncharacteristically favorable press coverage. But Gore's conservative detractors, like Saunders and the National Review's Jonah Goldberg are trying very hard to reassert the old Gore narratives. And mainstream journalists (and even liberal commentators like Frank Rich) have demonstrated recently that the old Gore narratives still shape their views of the man.
But I'm cautiously optimistic that this phenomenon can be more effectively combatted and contained in the future. The reason for my optimism is the emergence of the blogosphere as a factor in American politics. In the past, the proliferation of false anecdotes and stories was enormously aided by the fact that, more often than not, no one was making any attempt to correct the record, at least until it was too late. But the emergence of the internet and bloggers allows, at least potentially, for real-time fact-checking of media accounts. These days, when someone makes up a story or misrepresents what a candidate said, there is a far greater chance that someone will discover the misrepresentation and write about it. If the misrepresentation is sufficiently egregious, it can trigger, relatively quickly, a chorus of blog posts exposing it and a barrage of angry emails to the media outlet responsible for airing it. Even when this doesn't result in a retraction, it often highlights for others in the media the dubious nature of the story and provides some incentive not to repeat it (if for no other reason than to avoid being deluged with angry emails). In this way, many false stories can be nipped in the bud, before they ever have the chance to solidify into conventional wisdom.
In a long and comprehensive examination of this very subject over at Media Matters, Jamison Foser made the following important observation:
No matter who emerges as a progressive leader, orThat's undoubtedly true, and it's something that anyone interested in the success of future candidates must internalize. There are no perfect candidates and most of the ones the Democrats have put forth in the past, though not without their flaws, were not inherently inferior to their Republican rivals. It's unfortunate that the fate of important policies often depends on the perceived personal attributes of the candidates who champion them, but that's the reality of the world we live in, particularly when it comes to presidential campaigns.
a high-profile Democrat, they're in for the same
flood of conservative misinformation in the media.
Too many people chalk up outrageous media
treatment of, say, Al Gore or John Kerry to the
men's own flaws, pretending that if they were better
candidates, they'd have gotten better press
coverage. That's naive. The Democratic Party could
nominate Superman to be their next presidential
candidate, and two things would happen:
conservatives would smear him, and the media
would join in.
But in the age of internet, we are not entirely powerless as the 'forces that be' construct their narratives about our next generation of candidates and leaders. We have the power, through vigilance, to ensure that the media's depiction of candidates tracks closer to the actual facts than it has in the past. It's important, as we get closer to 2008, that bloggers pay close attention to emerging anecdotes and stories about the presidential contenders and fact-check them thoroughly. False stories and quotes must be confronted at an early stage, before they have been repeated enough times to gain the aura of truth.
*Postscript: In her column, Saunders writes: "The year his sister died, Gore helped the industry by fighting efforts to put the words 'death' and 'addiction' on cigarette-warning labels." This is misleading on a number of levels. First, the legislative wrangling Saunders is referring to took place in early 1984, as evidenced by this June 1984 National Journal article describing it. Gore's sister died in mid-July 1984. So the events Saunders is pointing to as evidence of Gore's hypocrisy took place BEFORE his sister died. Second, and more importantly, Gore was in no way acting as a shill for the tobacco industry. At the time, the industry was pushing hard against the proposed warning label legislation and might well have succeeded had Gore not stepped in and used his clout among tobacco-state politicians to broker the compromise that eventually allowed the legislation to pass. If anyone's interested in a balanced, contemporaneous account of Gore's actions, I suggest reading the 1984 National Journal article cited above, which includes a brief profile of then-Congressman Al Gore and his views regarding the tobacco industry.
CLARIFICATION: Above I wrote: "This sentence is clearly intended to convey to the reader that Gore claimed to have made this commitment the moment his sister died." In fact, the sentence itself only suggests that Gore claimed to have made this commitment at some time in the past; it does not necessarily imply that he made it at the time of his sister's death. This, of course, doesn't make her sentence any less false, but I believe in being precise. My point remains the same. She misrepresented a future pledge as a claim of past commitment.
Morever, while the sentence itself does not necessarily imply that Gore's alleged commitment coincided with his sister's death, the overall context of the piece certainly does. Otherwise, Saunders argument would make no sense. The events she points to as evidence of Gore's dishonestly did not happen in or around 1996, but much earlier (some even before his sister's death). If she was not suggesting that Gore claimed to have made this commitment prior to those events, then her argument completely fails. Long story short, she manipulated a quote and distorted the timeline and nature of Gore's conduct in an effort to paint him as dishonest and phony.
Frankly, I wouldn't expect anything else from the doubly-misnamed "RealClearPolitics".
ReplyDeleteNor would I expect anything more from conservatives vis-a-vis global warming. Clearly, they are completely bankrupt of logical arguments, so have to engage in pointless ad hominems -- and have to make them up, to boot.
Talk about spectacular implosions.
Gore himself said his relationship changed when his sister died. He did not say his pledge started with his speech in '96.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_controversies#Controversial_Al_Gore_quotes
In 2000 he said:
"It's not fair to say, ‘Okay, after his sister died (in 1984), he continued in the same relationship with the tobacco industry.' I did not. I did not. I began to confront them forcefully. I don't see the inconsistency there."
However in the same month Gore's sister died, he received a $1,000 speaking fee from U.S. Tobacco. In 1985, Gore voted against cigarette and tobacco tax increases three times and favored a bill allowing major cigarette makers to purchase discounted tobacco.
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And don't forget this famous Gore quote:
"My family had grown tobacco. It was never actually grown on my farm, but it was on my father’s farm"
This was another Gore lie, when in fact he received tobacco subsidies for growing tobacco on his own farm.
Gore was pandering. Clinton could get away with pandering and lies. For whatever reason Gore couldn't pull it off.
While the leftwing blogosphere thinks it can stop conservative media the fact is most of the media are liberals. There are few rightwing media outlets, that's why the Rush Limbaughs of the world evolved into popularity. The rightwing power is it's talk show base. Even on Fox its power is in the talk shows, not actual news.
That's why you see sites like Media Matters spending a large chunk of its time attacking Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Glen Beck etc.
Anonymous (1:09):
ReplyDeleteGore's position on tobacco-related issues did start to change right about the time his sister died. Read the National Journal article for some context on that. It wasn't an overnight, 180 degree change. Rather, it was a gradual one. His sister's death clearly did influence his thinking, though.
But the fact that he didn't change overnight doesn't mean that Saunders column was any less dishonest. She intentionally took that quote out of context. She misrepresented it in order to exaggerate the truth, exactly what she was accusing Gore of doing. That's pretty pathetic.
~~paradox~~
ReplyDeleteThe blogs did not counter-act the swift boat quacks.
Even if we gain readership tenfold, will we have enough influence to sway the narrative?
Those magic keys may forever belong to those who broadcast teevee. I hope it is not so, but we seem to have few readers in this country.
The media cannot be shamed, believe me. We humiliate them day after day and they blithely blunder on, dumbasses on a short leash to greedy cretins. The populace is clueless with no memory. It's simply true.
We have the power. Yeah, well, it would be nice to know when the fuck it's empirically supposed to make a difference, that's all.
The blogs did not counter-act the swift boat quacks.
ReplyDeleteI'm not so sure about that. As bad as the swift boat attacks were, I suspect that they would have been far worse without the blogs. I actually think Kerry got better press coverage than Gore did, which doesn't say a whole lot.
And for what it's worth, the term "to swift boat" has now entered the public lexicon as a term meaning "to slander". That means that most people, including the media, are aware, at least in retrospect, how unfair and undignified those particular attacks were. That an enormous improvement over what happened to Gore in 2000. The media still refuses to acknowledge how much stuff it made about Gore in 2000.
At any rate, my contention is not that blogs can counteract this stuff, but that they can reduce its effectiveness.
~~paradox~~
ReplyDeleteI do not agree that Kerry got better coverage, just a different whiff of diahretic drivel from those goons on teevee.
Well, now that I think about it, you're right. I doubt we will ever see the press go as low as they squatted 2000, jesus save us from american journalists.
I'm an impatient person, and I apologize for being negative. Please believe me I have not given up, not hardly, and I won't be going anywhere for a long time. Thnaks for the excellent work.
I suspect there's a lot of bluffing in media narratives even among straight news people. As an example, I read a recent straightforward news story about the 'immigration crisis.' I saw nothing in the article to assure me that the reporter knew for sure that illegal immigration is significantly different than it was say five, ten or twenty years ago. Was there an 'immigration crisis' before Bush's numbers started slipping so badly?
ReplyDeleteBut does such a reporter have the time to verify a narrative? Probably not, which is no excuse. Some organizations, though, like CBS, used to have more reporters to do legwork. Having more reporters didn't stop politicians and pundits from spinning but it did cut down on the more fictitious narratives. So that's one of the things bloggers may be good for: doing the legwork and sometimes even the analysis that news organizations are no longer prepared to do.
In a similar vein, I have a question about expertise in general. I can recall when Reagan started making it more difficult for government experts to talk to the media. Including Congress and the federal government, how much has access to expertise been curtailed by Republicans in the last twenty-five years? I suspect I know the answer but I would like to know if there's any good books or articles on that subject?
as Bob Somerby of the Daily Howler has exhaustingly chronicled
ReplyDeleteHey, don't you mean "exhaustively"?
DavidByron said...
ReplyDelete"Btw? Looks like I called it right when I said massacring civilians (as at Haditha) is US policy. The defence of the marines charged seems credible. They claim their orders were to kill all the civilians they could while there was the slightest chance of being able to blame the shooting on the presence of the Iraqi resistance."
Not enough cheap shots yet today David.
What you wrote is most certainly NOT what they said but your own distorted view of what you think you read.
The Marines simply are making the claim that they followed the rules of engagement after being fired on. What the truth is still remains to be decided in a court of law. Not on your distortions based on your own biases.
While the leftwing blogosphere thinks it can stop conservative media the fact is most of the media are liberals. There are few rightwing media outlets, that's why the Rush Limbaughs of the world evolved into popularity. The rightwing power is it's talk show base. Even on Fox its power is in the talk shows, not actual news.
ReplyDeleteThat's why you see sites like Media Matters spending a large chunk of its time attacking Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Glen Beck etc.
1:09 AM
I don't even know real conservatives who consider these "entertainers" news sources yet that's where extreme right wing morons like you get your "news".
And just what does smearing Al Gore personally have to do with the facts in his movie, An Inconvenient Truth?"
ReplyDeleteBecause they can't refute the facts, they just try to discredit the messenger...
Thanks for this post. It is a good rock to throw at the oncoming horde of lies. The inherent manipulation in today's Media turns my gut. And often, turns me off completely. From the process.
ReplyDeleteRemember truth? This is what I love about gardening. And art. And eating. And singing. And not reading News. There is much truth in the world, in our being, in creation. Yet, there is this hive of festering falsity called Media. Too much time there is dangerous.
A small example from 2004, noted by, yes, Bob Somerby: Kerry asked "Who among us does not love Nascar?", showing both how stilted and how pandering he could be. This question was quoted four or five times by those liberal columnists in the NY Times, to their continuing amusement. The only trouble, of course, was that he never said it: MoDo put the words in his mouth.
ReplyDeleteGreg said...
ReplyDeleteObviously, you've never read Bob Somersby. Ultra-valuable content, but so insistant on arguing every minor nuance that he sounds like a nut.
mwg: Because they can't refute the facts, they just try to discredit the messenger...
ReplyDeleteBut why? It fits into a larger picture of how the media ascribe authority and thereby indicates those who are allowed to be influential. Of course, the day that the press begins to discuss the isssues that Gore raises is a cold day in hell.
"We have the power, through vigilance, to ensure that the media's depiction of candidates tracks closer to the actual facts than it has in the past."
ReplyDeleteWhich is it? Are you being naive or disingenuous?
In political matters, few are interested in "actual facts". They are very much committed to having "facts" accepted that are favorable to their candidate. I recall no Democrat calling for Mr. Kerry to execute the document that would make all his service records available to hostile investigators. Such document has still, to this day, not been executed. So much for the facts in that matter. We still do not have them, despite millions of words in print and on the internet.
You are correct that early dilligence can be effective in forming the narrative and that effort is probably as important to a campaign as getting out the vote has always been.
a.l.: But in the age of internet, we are not entirely powerless as the 'forces that be' construct their narratives about our next generation of candidates and leaders. We have the power, through vigilance, to ensure that the media's depiction of candidates tracks closer to the actual facts than it has in the past. It's important, as we get closer to 2008, that bloggers pay close attention to emerging anecdotes and stories about the presidential contenders and fact-check them thoroughly. False stories and quotes must be confronted at an early stage, before they have been repeated enough times to gain the aura of truth.
ReplyDeleteThere are some major assumptions in this statement, which bear discussion:
1) What motivates the MSM to pass on stories like this? The answer might seem to relate to who has authroity to speak about issues of interest. Since the MSM finds itself incapable of answering these questions in and by themselves, they have to resort to stories about character, which by itself indicates that the a person is telling the truth.
2) How the news is packaged. The press makes itself useful by purveying news in neatly discrete packages that appeal to the limited information-seeking time of the electorate. It's much easier to dwell on personal, feel-good stories than it is on the difficult questions of global warming, etc.
3) The power of the blogosphere is not as ubiquitous or infleuntial as many here assume. The internet--for most people--is still the arena of pedophiles, oceans of garbage-data, and people out to steal personal information. Until the blogosphere can attain some form of influence beyond the stereotypes, any information emanating from it will remain suspect.
Its a one-two punch from the media. There is the slandering, smears and outright lies of the opposition - the democratic candidate.
ReplyDeleteBut they also tell outrageous lies about how lovable folks like our war-criminal, psychopathic liar "decider."
The two work together.
The "beer factor" was a total fabrication - that most Americans would rather have a beer with an abusive, petulant, alcoholic, cocaine addict instead of a reasonable, intellectual man.
It was a lie then and it is a lie now - the MSM can catapult the propaganda by slinging muc at the opposing side while creating the meme that the other side somehow transcends politics and the dirty tricks.
cynic librarian:
ReplyDeleteI think a large part of the explanation is laziness. I think that most MSM types that repeat these false stories simply lazily assume that the stories are true. That, of course, doesn't explain why some make up those stories in the first place, but that's a bit more complicated.
Second, I wasn't suggesting that the blogosphere is the all-powerful antedote to this problem. But it does have the potentional to lessen the problem somewhat. And that is not because it reaches most people. The vast majority of Americans don't read blogs. But journalists do read blogs. And even the ones that don't read them still receive the flood of nasty emails generated by blogs. So, in that way, blogs have the power to put some pressure on journalists and to make journalists aware that certain stories are bogus. That won't entirely solve the problem. But it will help.
a.l.: I think a large part of the explanation is laziness. I think that most MSM types that repeat these false stories simply lazily assume that the stories are true.
ReplyDeleteJournalists are also limited by time concerns. They do not have the time to do the research that's necessary to confirm or disaffirm stories. In this regard, they must rely on sources, many of whom--obviously--have their own agendas with regard to any particular story.
I'll repost an interesting description of sources by sociologist Leon Mayhew, which provides some perspective to how and why the MSM seems so lazy:
This generalization derives from studies of how workers in the news industry decide who should be granted the status of a source. There are two categories of sources: routine sources that provide press releases and similar forms of packaged information and enterprise sources that are generated by reporters' independent efforts to find people who can supply or sorroborate stories (Epstein 1973). Epstein's study of 2,850 news stories publcished in the New York Times and Washington Post over a fourteen-year period documented that only about a quarter of these stories were based on enterprise sources. The rest were based on ready made sources. More than half were supplied by officials of the federal government, including the legislative branch (Epstein 1973, 119-30). ... Choosing sources as principal sources flows directly from the two main criteria for choosing sources: credible knowledge and capacity to represent constituencies. Officials are presumed responsible and close to the scenes of action, which makes them what Fishman (1980) has called "people entitled to know what they say" and thus "authorized knowers." Networks of authorized knowers upon whom journalists routinely depend constitute a "web of facticity" (Tuchman 1978, 82-103) that bestows credibility on news workers. [emphasis in original] (Mayhew, p. 252)
It is gaining the type of influence that the sources described by Mayhew have that the blogosphere must garner. Until the blogosphere can gain that influence, its attempts to keep the MSM honest will fall on deaf ears.
What Mayhew describes is only one facet of a much larger picture, of course. The larger question relates to discussion of the issues--a rational and open debate about whether the claims made by a candidate or a policy are true, feasible, or prudent.
It is that debate that the blogosphere promises to provide, yet because it is limited in its coverage, the debate never reaches the ears of those who must make the deicisions--ie, the voters, policy-makers, and so on.
I think a large part of the explanation is laziness. I think that most MSM types that repeat these false stories simply lazily assume that the stories are true. That, of course, doesn't explain why some make up those stories in the first place, but that's a bit more complicated.
ReplyDeleteYes, I think the central problem is laziness. It just easier to go along with the current narrative than it is to explore the possibility that it's wrong. I do not buy the excuse of time constraints. It is much, much easier now to confirm quotations by using the net to do some fact-checking.
However, I think there is something to the excuse that there are just fewer reporters. Layoffs just keep on coming as corporate managers try to shore up margins. And, at the same time, the content becomes more advertiser driven. The dead tree edition of the NYT is now largely sections that are designed to frame advertising.
I always figured that Debra Saunders' place in the SF Chronicle served the same purpose as Jeff Jacoby's inclusion on the Boston Globe's Op-Ed page: to provide a regular space in which conservative ideas would look foolish for the benefit of those newspapers' liberal readership.
ReplyDeleteI think that most MSM types that repeat these false stories simply lazily assume that the stories are true. That, of course, doesn't explain why some make up those stories in the first place, but that's a bit more complicated.
ReplyDeleteI actually tend to think that the laziness factor is more important when the false stories are created-- as the cynic librarian pointed out, reporters rely way too much on ready-made sources, and the genius of the GOP is that it actually creates narratives for the press, so they can manage their time more easily. So false stories are planted & sourced, treated as fact, and because they are pervasive and almost impossible to counter, reporters have not only stories, but stories that fit into the broader narrative arc that Republicans have been writing in their political shop.
Later on, even after the untrue stories have basically been debunked, reporters take the flexible-reality approach; their stories then are about the assumptions that the untruths created, without ever addressing their actual validity. This is also an example of laziness, but of a different kind-- instead of basically allowing political shills to write their stories for them, reporters shift into the sort of lifestyle reporting that eschews hard facts in favor of nattering about feelings & perceptions, even though those same feelings & perceptions are faulty because of the press's laziness when the story first originated.
This sentence is clearly intended to convey to the reader that Gore claimed to have made this commitment the moment his sister died.
ReplyDeleteWhat utter bunk!
The sentence makes no such implication. The sentence is PERFECTLY CLEAR - after Gore's sister died, he committed himself to protecting children from smoking. "After" does not mean, OR IMPLY, "immediately after". If Saunders meant "immediately after", she could have simply added that one word.
Accordingly, your smear against Saunders is SIMPLY FALSE.
Moreover, Saunders' larger point remains PERFECTLY VALID: Gore is not some sort of liberal hero; he is a phony. He made himself out in 1996 as a crusading anti-tobacco hero, when the reality was that less than a decade earlier (in 1988) he campaigned as a tobacco farmer - even though his sister had at that time recently been killed by lung cancer.
Saunders hits it straight on: phony, phony, phony.
A.L. should retract his false and misleading smear of a post.
Debra Saunders (in that column) promised to lecture us about the film's (An Inconvenient Truth) "bad science".
ReplyDeleteMy immediate reaction was to think that I have better things to do than listen to some hack partisan "journalist" lecture me about science, and to resolve to write her a letter to that effect. I have far more education and training in science than she'll ever have.
Judging from the hactacular job she did on sliming Gore, I can only expect at least as many RNC "spin points" and just as few actual facts in any column she does on atmospheric science.
Cheers,
Media narratives about Republicans:
ReplyDeleteBob Dole is mean.
John McCain is a maverick.
George W. Bush would be fun to hang out with.
Ronald Reagan was a straight shooter.
Jack Kemp isn't racist.
Republicans are always better on crime.
Republicans are always better on defense.
Republicans are always better on spending.
The sentence makes no such implication. The sentence is PERFECTLY CLEAR - after Gore's sister died, he committed himself to protecting children from smoking. "After" does not mean, OR IMPLY, "immediately after". If Saunders meant "immediately after", she could have simply added that one word.
ReplyDeleteWhat total rubbish. First of all, Saunders clearly did mean 'immediately after.' Otherwise her argument would make no sense. Her entire point is that Gore's deeds did not square with the commitment he allegedly made. But that argument only works if Gore made that commitment prior to the engaging in the deeds she mentions, and those took place immediately after his sister's death (indeed some took place before).
Second, reread the sentence itself. She writes: "Gore told the Democratic National Convention that after his sister Nancy's needless death in 1984 from lung cancer, he committed himself 'heart and soul into the cause of protecting our children from the dangers of smoking.'" Notice how she uses "committed" in the past tense. That's false no matter how you slice it.
Gore made that commitment in the speech itself, in the future tense. He didn't tell the crowd that, at some point in the past, he made this commitment. He told them that he "will pour his heart and soul into..." So there's simply no way of reading Saunders sentence that is at all accurate.
Nice try, though.
notherbob2:
ReplyDeleteI recall no Democrat calling for Mr. Kerry to execute the document that would make all his service records available to hostile investigators.
Why bother? We don't have over half of Dubya's service records; they are either missing or destroyed. Yey, we know all we need to know about the coke-snorting, alcoholic, AWOL wastrel we need to know....
Cheers,
Arne:
ReplyDeleteand we all knew Kerry was
a traitor for meeting with the
Viet Cong twice.
So can we move on?
anonymous:
ReplyDeleteArne:
... and we all knew Kerry was
a traitor for meeting with the
Viet Cong twice.
Huh??? Hate to say it, but the U.S. gummint "me[t[ with the Viet Cong".
So can we move on?
No so you, it seems. Still got a bug up your arse about Kerry, but you're just too dishonest to say outright what it is that bothers you so. Kind of liek Saunders and Gore, actually....
Cheers,
The media has had a right wing conservative bias in America for decades. That's the primary reason why, outside of a few areas, a conservative gets elected.
ReplyDeleteMs. Saunders should get it into her head that the biggest serial liar is in the WH. She wastes her time dissecting everything Al Gore says, and gets it wrong. It is clear as day, that her hero Bush and his mob are the biggest criminals in our history, who lied, misled, and took us into a war, which has resulted in the deaths of thousands. What Al Gore said, and what he meant, does not merit the negative spin she comes out with. Her criticism and focus should be on the present administration.
ReplyDeletestories intended to portray Al Gore as dishonest or prone to exaggeration
ReplyDeleteI started following Al Gore's career when he & I were young -- in the early 80s, when I was a reporter & writer about biotechnology & genetic engineering. The opinion I formed at that time was that he was hella smart and actually knew what he was talking about.
I was nonplussed when, many years later, the "Gore the liar" narrative cropped up. As far as I can tell, MSM narratives are usually based on *something*, usually the press' emotional reaction to something about the politician. Bill Clinton *was* sexually indiscreet; Bob Dole *was* kind of mean.
But I never figured out what aspect of Gore the media's story about him was based on. The fact that he's smarter than they are? The fact that he thinks about long-term issues like global warming, which look like exaggeration when your focus is next week's deadline? I have no clue.
Saunders claims the Gore movie is bad science and promises to debunk the sciene in a future column. The presentation clearly presents the state-of-art as we know it now and Gore even asked Dr. James Hansen of NASA/GISS to review and comment on the slides. Dr. Hansen praises Gore in his NY Review Of Books article.
ReplyDeleteLastly Saunders falsely accused Gore of changinh his view of the climate warming problem. She implied he now sees it as an economic opportunity but did not in 2000. False. Gore advocated that new technologies can reduce greenhouse gas emissions and benefit the economy in his 2000 Presidential run.
pudding:
ReplyDeleteSaunders claims the Gore movie is bad science and promises to debunk the sciene in a future column. The presentation clearly presents the state-of-art as we know it now and Gore even asked Dr. James Hansen of NASA/GISS to review and comment on the slides. Dr. Hansen praises Gore in his NY Review Of Books article.
... and we all knwo how many Nobel prizes that Debra Saunders has won. Ig Nobel prizes, that is.....
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michael said,
ReplyDeleteGore's propensity to paint himself as a superman
All politicians have to claim to have "the answer". When you don't you're just another Democrat these days. I would think inevitably stumping becomes in effect painting oneself as a "superman" of sorts. While the delivery of that "answer" cannot be downplayed, the real difference with Gore is that he seems to propose more than just rhetoric and hussied-up platitudes. Instead it's usually substantive solutions to real-world problems.
It's classic high-school dynamics. Nobody likes the nerd, and qualities like merit is like, totally loser-speak, dude.
Saunders has for a long time been a religiously-motivated science-denying nutjob, posing in print as a self-described political moderate.
ReplyDeleteSaunders happens to be married to another science-denying nutjob, Wesley J. Smith. He's a "senior fellow" on the payroll of the Discovery Institute, the rightwads from Seattle using their big budget to displace science education with creationist drivel, who haven't been getting all that much bang for their buck of late.
Just to show you how weird this is, Saunders and hubby wrote many high-minded screeds about keeping Michael Schiavo's corpse bride animated, claiming she was "locked-in." Wesley Smith, who co-wrote some Before-Florida-2K screeds with everybody's favorite third party candidate Ralph Nader, used the Discovery Institute as the source for a keep-the-tube-in-the-vegetable press-release jointly issued with Nader.
Wesley J. Smith and his darling spouse Saunders are the moderate mainstream of he-said/she-said mainstream journamalist crap.
Science? That's just a bunch of secularists out to besmirch honest people of faith, isn't it.