Credit is due to the White House for finally having the President deliver coherent, clear, and relatively candid speeches about what we are doing in Iraq, why we are doing it, and what challenges and problems we continue to face. Unlike the vague and insulting happy-face nonsense we have been fed for almost 3 years whenever the Administration spoke about Iraq, these latest speeches are more substantive, serious and respectful.
That doesn’t mean the rationale which is being provided is persuasive -- to me, it isn’t -- but it’s at least less propagandistic and more cognizant of a Government’s need to inform a nation’s citizens about the realities of a war if it wants the sustained support of those citizens.
The President delivered such a speech yesterday at the Philadelphia World Affairs Council, and laid out with a good amount of clarity and detail what the Administration believes are its plan and its rationale for the ongoing war. In doing so, he set forth one of the central flaws of our invasion of Iraq:
By helping Iraqis to build a democracy, we will gain an ally in the war on terror.
Bush provides other reasons why he believes that democracy in Iraq benefits the U.S., but as I’ve pointed out before, this rationale is just illogical. It is far from certain that a democratically elected government in Iraq will be our "ally in the war on terror" or an ally of ours in any other respect. Indeed, it is quite possible that such a government will be hostile to American interests, as the democratically elected government in Venezuela is.
Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan are our allies in the war on terror, at least a good amount of the time, as is Pakistan. The first three are the opposites of democracy and the latter is led by a military dictator. The existence of a democratically elected government is hardly a guarantee that a country will be our ally, nor is the absence of such a government a guarantee that it will be our enemy.
It remains to be seen whether the chaos and civil strife in Iraq really can be sufficiently quelled such that a democratically elected government can function in Iraq, let alone weed out the thriving Al Qaeda presence which has taken root subsequent to and a result of our invasion. There is very good reason to doubt that this will happen, although one cannot say that it is impossible.
But achieving that extremely ambitious goal is only the first step, not the last step, towards accomplishing something beneficial in Iraq from the perspective of U.S. interests. If the Iraqi democratic process which we have expended so many lives and so much of our resources to create yields an Islamic theocracy that is a close ally of Iran, nobody will be able to reasonably claim that the war has made the U.S. more secure. Contrary to one of the President's principal rationales for this war, it is just not the case that a democratically-elected Iraq is an inherently pro-U.S. Iraq.
Whatever government ends up in Iraq, it can't be worse than what was there before the invasion, so worst case scenario, we end up in a tie.
ReplyDeleteSorry, Glenn, but like it or not, the U.S. stands for freedom. We tried supporting pro-US dictators and look at what it got it. Didn't you just say yourself recently that this is why so many Muslims hate us, beacuse we preached democracy while propping up their dictators?
ReplyDeleteWe can't do that anymore. That is the Bush Revolution.
Sorry Charles, but the US stands for self-interest (as does every other nation).
ReplyDeleteWe support "freedom" when we perceive it in our interest to do so. Likewise, we support dictators when we perceive that to be in our interest.
I'll support your idea of the "Bush Revolution" standing for freedom when we go against our self-interest and support freedom in Saudi Arabia
- Charlie Watts (unable to login)
What if we end up with a genuine civil war and NO government? What if bad planning, incompetent management, and a lack of reality based vision doom this whole effort to dismal failure?
ReplyDeleteBecause that is sure as hell the course we are on right now. If something worthwhile grows in Iraq, it will because the Iraqi people decided to make it happen, not because WE did. All we did was open the door. And there may have been better ways to accomplish even that much.
Jake
Charles, the first paragraph of your reply I agree with completely (except I'm not defending it; I'm reporting it as I see it). But I agree with your point. Our support of oppressive governments does make people hate us.
ReplyDeleteIt's the second paragraph that I find naive ("no more of that" is the Bush revolution). My point is that Bush will support whatever governments he believes it is in our national interest to support.
I can't fault him for this although there is much else to fault him for. But you will see him toss the principle du jour as soon as its no longer useful to him. Remember the "Mission to Mars"? How about rebuilding New Orleans?
- Charlie Watts
Venezuela is not a good example of a democratic country that is not an ally in the war on terror. France, Germany, etc. are fullfledged democracies that are opposed.
ReplyDeleteIn contrast, Venezuela is currently being run by a dictator who manipulates votes and forces voters to do his bidding. The anti-American rhetoric coming from the country is primarily a shell-game in which we serve as an outside "enemy" to distract the Venezuelans from the train wreck that they are headed for.