Saddam Hussein moved his chemical weapons to Syria six weeks before the war started, Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom says. . . .
The Israeli officer, Lieutenant General Moshe Yaalon, asserted that Saddam spirited his chemical weapons out of the country on the eve of the war. "He transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria," General Yaalon told The New York Sun over dinner in New York on Tuesday night. "No one went to Syria to find it."
According to the Sun article, this now-retired Israeli General previously offered up this theory -- which has long been the last, best hope to which many war proponents have clung in order to salvage the WMD claims -- only as speculation, saying in 2004: "Perhaps they transferred them to another country, such as Syria." Now he is asserting it more definitively, but it's hard to believe he actually has obtained hard information enabling him to transform his speculation into fact, primarily because if such information existed, it would undoubtedly have been disclosed.
But even assuming that the Sun's "relocated WMD" theory is accurate, it would change very little. The term "WMDs" has joined terms such as "terrorist" and "torture" on the list of phrases that are so vague and ill-defined that they are wholly impoverished of meaning, and are now used almost exclusively to propagandize and manipulate, rather than illuminate or advance rational arguments.
Is every "chemical weapon" really a "weapon of mass destruction"? The U.S. has numerous conventional weapons that will kill far more people and do much greater damage than all sorts of weaponized chemicals can. The debate about WMDs has now implicitly though fully embraced the proposition that any chemical or biological weapon -- no matter its destructive properties -- is intrinsically a "weapon of mass destruction," such that the mere existence of any one of those items in Saddam's arsenal would vindicate the entire panoply of pre-war claims that fall under the heading "Saddam had WMDs."
But that notion is simply absurd. Nobody favored a war against Saddam because of a concern that he had a few run-of-the-mill chemicals. The truly motivating concern was, first and foremost, the prospect of his acquiring a nuclear capability, hence the frightening warnings from the Administration about not having the "smoking gun be in the form of a mushroom cloud." The existence of a few chemicals, even if it had been something other than an illusion, would hardly have been sufficient to warrant an invasion, nor would it likely have been sufficient to persuade the public to support the war. It was the prospect of nuclear weapons, and secondarily truly destructive biological and chemical agents, which caused people to see Saddam as enough of a threat to the U.S. to justify a war against him.
Not all "WMDs" are created equal, and not all "chemical and biological weapons" are accurately characterized as "WMDs." The post-invasion debate over WMDs has been conducted like some sort of silly reality game show: all you have to do is find one chemical in Saddam's arsenal buried somewhere in Iraq (or, and here's a twist, moved to Syria) and -- presto! -- the pro-war team wins because it will turn out that the pre-war WMD claims were right all along.
The New York Sun can find all the pro-war "sources" it wants to try to prove that there really were "WMDs" in Iraq. None of that will vindicate the claims made by the Administration which actually motivated Americans to support the war.
This is an excellent point. One test tube of a chemical doesn't exactly make Saddam a threat, but that's the image they want to keep pushing. Notice how you NEVER hear talk any more about the nuclear crap. When they admit that he was not anywhere near getting nuclear weapons, then they will finally have come clean, but they can't admit that because that was the whole scare tactic which allowed their war.
ReplyDeleteYes, it is funny to watch them hold out hope. Shows how detached from reality they are willing to get to prop up their Leader.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's good to see you back to your normally insightful and well-written self after the winger weirdness you brought here yesterday.
I heard Saddam and his sons used aresol underarm deoderant, which can be used to suffocate people and cause things to explode, and he shipped all those cans to Syria and started using roll-on. Saddam had chemical weapons alright, but the MSM won't tell you about that.
ReplyDeleteSteven In SD spits: And it's good to see you back to your normally insightful and well-written self after the winger weirdness you brought here yesterday.
ReplyDeleteI see. Glenn's posts are insightful and well-written when they play to your political views, but not otherwise. Odd, that.
It's almost always well-written, even when I disagree, but every now and then, like yesterday, he comes up with stuff that is more hard right-wing than most wingers I know, and I do not consider THAT insightful.
ReplyDeleteYou, as a winger, can't understand. We don't have a lot of articulate and passionate Administration critics around and Glenn is a very powerful voice and I'm glad when he does what he does best, that's all.
By the way, Hypatia was a well-known wench and whore in her time, which is how she did her math. So you're either ignorant or you chose your name well.
The neocons lie pathologically, even when everyone has exposed their lie, they never give up trying to convince everyone that it's true.
ReplyDeleteThey belong in jail, every last one of them, or a war crimes dock.
stephen insd: Hypatia was certainly a whore by Xian standards, but she was lynched for her philosophy and paganism, not her math.
ReplyDeleteIn any event, Glenn is certainly intelligent and articulate, but he is hardly the only such voice that criticizes the Bush Administration; there are many such. One would think you would appreciate, however, the PR value of being able to point to an eloquent critic of Bush who cannot accurately be described as a raging lefty. In any event, I seriously doubt his shock to your tender leftists sensibilities, posted yesterday, will be his last.
Diane D: who or what is a "neocon?" What is the evidence that this cabal, whoever constitutes it, lies pathologically?
Hypatia, keep posting.
ReplyDeleteGlenn, it's ok to take an odd view.
Civil discourse is an unmitigated good.
Jake
Howard Roberts
ReplyDeleteA Seven-point plan for an Exit Strategy in Iraq
1) A timetable for the complete withdrawal of American and British forces must be announced.
I envision the following procedure, but suitable fine-tuning can be applied by all the people involved.
A) A ceasefire should be offered by the Occupying side to representatives of both the Sunni insurgency and the Shiite community. These representatives would be guaranteed safe passage, to any meetings. The individual insurgency groups would designate who would attend.
At this meeting a written document declaring a one-month ceasefire, witnessed by a United Nations authority, will be fashioned and eventually signed. This document will be released in full, to all Iraqi newspapers, the foreign press, and the Internet.
B) US and British command will make public its withdrawal, within sixth-months of 80 % of their troops.
C) Every month, a team of United Nations observers will verify the effectiveness of the ceasefire.
All incidences on both sides will be reported.
D) Combined representative armed forces of both the Occupying nations and the insurgency organizations that agreed to the cease fire will protect the Iraqi people from actions by terrorist cells.
E) Combined representative armed forces from both the Occupying nations and the insurgency organizations will begin creating a new military and police force. Those who served, with out extenuating circumstances, in the previous Iraqi military or police, will be given the first option to serve.
F) After the second month of the ceasefire, and thereafter, in increments of 10-20% ,a total of 80% will be withdrawn, to enclaves in Qatar and Bahrain. The governments of these countries will work out a temporary land-lease housing arrangement for these troops. During the time the troops will be in these countries they will not stand down, and can be re-activated in the theater, if both the chain of the command still in Iraq, the newly formed Iraqi military, the leaders of the insurgency, and two international ombudsman (one from the Arab League, one from the United Nations), as a majority, deem it necessary.
G) One-half of those troops in enclaves will leave three-months after they arrive, for the United States or other locations, not including Iraq.
H) The other half of the troops in enclaves will leave after six-months.
I) The remaining 20 % of the Occupying troops will, during this six month interval, be used as peace-keepers, and will work with all the designated organizations, to aid in reconstruction and nation-building.
J) After four months they will be moved to enclaves in the above mentioned countries.
They will remain, still active, for two month, until their return to the States, Britain and the other involved nations.
2) At the beginning of this period the United States will file a letter with the Secretary General of the Security Council of the United Nations, making null and void all written and proscribed orders by the CPA, under R. Paul Bremer. This will be announced and duly noted.
3) At the beginning of this period all contracts signed by foreign countries will be considered in abeyance until a system of fair bidding, by both Iraqi and foreign countries, will be implemented ,by an interim Productivity and Investment Board, chosen from pertinent sectors of the Iraqi economy.
Local representatives of the 18 provinces of Iraq will put this board together, in local elections.
4) At the beginning of this period, the United Nations will declare that Iraq is a sovereign state again, and will be forming a Union of 18 autonomous regions. Each region will, with the help of international experts, and local bureaucrats, do a census as a first step toward the creation of a municipal government for all 18 provinces. After the census, a voting roll will be completed. Any group that gets a list of 15% of the names on this census will be able to nominate a slate of representatives. When all the parties have chosen their slates, a period of one-month will be allowed for campaigning.
Then in a popular election the group with the most votes will represent that province.
When the voters choose a slate, they will also be asked to choose five individual members of any of the slates.
The individuals who have the five highest vote counts will represent a National government.
This whole process, in every province, will be watched by international observers as well as the local bureaucrats.
During this process of local elections, a central governing board, made up of United Nations, election governing experts, insurgency organizations, US and British peacekeepers, and Arab league representatives, will assume the temporary duties of administering Baghdad, and the central duties of governing.
When the ninety representatives are elected they will assume the legislative duties of Iraq for two years.
Within three months the parties that have at least 15% of the representatives will nominate candidates for President and Prime Minister.
A national wide election for these offices will be held within three months from their nomination.
The President and the Vice President and the Prime Minister will choose their cabinet, after the election.
5) All debts accrued by Iraq will be rescheduled to begin payment, on the principal after one year, and on the interest after two years. If Iraq is able to handle another loan during this period she should be given a grace period of two years, from the taking of the loan, to comply with any structural adjustments.
6) The United States and the United Kingdom shall pay Iraq reparations for its invasion in the total of 120 billion dollars over a period of twenty years for damages to its infrastructure. This money can be defrayed as investment, if the return does not exceed 6.5 %.
7) During the beginning period Saddam Hussein and any other prisoners who are deemed by a Council of Iraqi Judges, elected by the National representative body, as having committed crimes will be put up for trial.
The trial of Saddam Hussein will be before seven judges, chosen from this Council of Judges.
One judge, one jury, again chosen by this Council, will try all other prisoners.
All defendants will have the right to present any evidence they want, and to choose freely their own lawyers.