George Bush's presidency is in deep trouble. He is vulnerable on every front, including within his own increasingly fractious party. While polls have long indicated that all Americans beyond his alarmingly loyal "base" have abandoned him, even that base is beginning to turn on him. None of his old tricks are working, and the new ones are backfiring.
As Taylor Marsh notes, a new poll by Rasmussen Reports (the polling outfit most trusted by Bush followers) was released today, and it contains not bad news, but panic-inducing news, for Bush and his followers:
For the first time ever, Americans have a slight preference for Democrats in Congress over the President on national security issues. Forty-three percent (43%) say they trust the Democrats more on this issue today while 41% prefer the President.
The preference for the opposition party is small, but the fact that Democrats are even competitive on the national security front is startling. In Election 2002, the President guided his party to regain control of the Senate based almost exclusively on the national security issue.
If Republicans don't have an electoral advantage on national security, what do they have? (To witness a little spastic panic from Bush followers, see here). And after two months of endless attacks on the President's lawless eavesdropping -- after which his approval ratings are pitifully low and Americans now distrust him even with regard to national security -- can we at least have those genius Democratic consultants stop announcing to the world that pursuing the NSA scandal will destroy the Democrats' electoral chances by making them look weak on national security?
And Rasmussen has very bad news for Bush followers beyond just this startling national security data. The lopsided disapproval of Bush by Americans which has long been reflected in every other poll is now reflected by Rasmussen as well:
Forty-four percent (44%) of American adults approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove.
Worse (for Bush followers), of the paltry 44% who approve of Bush's performance, only 23% strongly approve, as contrasted with the 38% who strongly disapprove. That means that not only do far more Americans disapprove of his performance than approve, but the disapproval is more intense and more strongly felt than is the approval.
At some point, won't it be difficult for Bush followers and their media allies to keep depicting Bush critics as fringe, deranged freaks, given that a solid majority of Americans are now Bush critics? And, as a corollary, won't it be equally difficult to continue to suggest that anyone who opposes Bush's policies on the war in Iraq or terrorism is a subversive and a traitor, given that this category, too, clearly includes a majority of Americans?
As the 2006 elections approach, Congressional Republicans are going to engage in increasingly strenuous efforts to show independence from this unpopular President by stepping up the attacks and defying the White House more and more. It won't work. The "Republican" brand has been marketed for the last five years as an indivisible, Bush-based product, and the only result which will come from their attempts to extricate themselves from the President to whose apron strings they have been so tightly attached is to increase even further the appearance of confusion, disarray and desperation.
There will be a temptation on the part of Democrats to simply sit back and watch all of this fratricide take place. And that would not be an unreasonable strategy. There is an old courtroom adage which advises that one ought to not get in the way when the other side is self-destructing. When one's adversary in a courtroom is digging himself a deeper and deeper hole with the judge, the last thing you want to do is interfere.
But now is not the time for passivity. Democrats need to step up the aggression now more than ever and take advantage of this wobbly, weakened President. Now is exactly when the Democrats need not fear anything. Americans have abandoned Bush. They no longer trust anything about him - not his integrity, his veracity or his competence. Not even his ability to protect them. And he will not even have Congressional Republicans to protect him, as they will be looking for ways to distance themselves as much as possible.
The absolute worst thing the Democrats could do now is follow the advice of the chronic loser Beltway consultants who excessively calculate every step and drain the life, principle and passion out of everything they touch. More than anything else, what accounted for Bush's popularity in the past (which is where his popularity lies) was the fact that he projected firm, resolute conviction about things that he espoused. It's time for Democrats to demonstrate that attribute as well. Taking an emphatic stand for the principle that the President does not have the right to break the law would be a good place to start.
UPDATE: The father of modern conservatism, William Buckley, may have been one of the people polled by Rasmussen. He announced today that our mission in Iraq has failed:
One can't doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed. The same edition of the paper quotes a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute. Mr. Reuel Marc Gerecht backed the American intervention. He now speaks of the bombing of the especially sacred Shiite mosque in Samara and what that has precipitated in the way of revenge. He concludes that “The bombing has completely demolished” what was being attempted — to bring Sunnis into the defense and interior ministries.
Our mission has failed because Iraqi animosities have proved uncontainable by an invading army of 130,000 Americans. The great human reserves that call for civil life haven't proved strong enough. No doubt they are latently there, but they have not been able to contend against the ice men who move about in the shadows with bombs and grenades and pistols. . . .
The accompanying postulate was that the invading American army would succeed in training Iraqi soldiers and policymkers to cope with insurgents bent on violence. This last did not happen. And the administration has, now, to cope with failure. . . . .
He will certainly face the current development as military leaders are expected to do: They are called upon to acknowledge a tactical setback, but to insist on the survival of strategic policies.
Yes, but within their own counsels, different plans have to be made. And the kernel here is the acknowledgment of defeat.
A few months ago, when Howard Dean said that he thought we would be unable to fulfill the mission in Iraq as Bush has described it, he was denounced as a traitor and Ronald Reagan's son urged that he be hanged -- literally. And yet, now we have William Buckley saying that our mission failed and it's time for Bush to acknowledge defeat. Will they hang him, too? Once we hang all the tratiors and subversives who have abandoned Bush, there sure won't be many people left.
There is no denying that this is extremely significant news. Even if the President backs down on the ports, it won't matter. The damage is done - Americans know that his claim to protect them at all costs his a lie.
ReplyDeleteAnd backing down will have its own price. After standing up and resolving to push this deal through even if it means vetoing, backing down will make him look weaker.
Bush is dead. Long live Bush!
This seems to be a Republican strategy. They use focus group formulated talking points to get elected and rapidly deploy a scorched earth policy to grab as much loot (tax cuts and corporate friendly legislation) and deregulate everything except lawyers (gotta have tort reform so lawyers can't take away our money when we flub up real bad).
ReplyDeleteThey have to move blindingly fast before the public realize what is happening. They know their on borrowed time, seemingly, so like snatch and grab robbers, they load up quickly. Then the Democrats have to come in and clean up the mess.
Glenn -
ReplyDeleteI read this appalling news:
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TIA Lives On
By Shane Harris, National Journal
© National Journal Group Inc.
Thursday, Feb. 23, 2006
"A controversial counter-terrorism program, which lawmakers halted more than two years ago amid outcries from privacy advocates, was stopped in name only and has quietly continued within the intelligence agency now fending off charges that it has violated the privacy of U.S. citizens..."
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and I thought of you.
The full story:
http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/0223nj1.htm
Just part of what our $40 BILLION dollars a year for classified intelligence operations buys us... We've got only 35 people representing a separate branch of government who have permission to exercise any oversight over these operations [the members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees in the federal legislature]. [36 people if you count the unused FISA Court judge I guess.]
Something is seriously out of balance here.
MidnightRide said...
ReplyDeleteGlenn -
I read this appalling news:
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TIA Lives On
Yeah...I saw that too. TIA is spanish for Aunt. Seems Uncle Sam's ol' lady is a nosey bitch.
I always thought the NSA program was just one little teeny thing that we heard sometning about. As Glenn has pointed out, it appears to be a constitutional violation.
So now the question is, are there any amendments they feel they can't violate? I even saw something about the NRA was concerned about this.
So much for the State of the Union bounce – it fell flat. Also, the pre-emptive invasion of Iraq was supposed to be the hallmark of the Bush presidency. Virtually everything neo-cons predicted has failed to happen, while everything the war critics predicted has happened. This needs to repeated as well.
ReplyDeleteAs Iraq comes apart at the seams, the public needs to be reminded of those failures as they focus not only on the “trust” issue, but the “competence” issue – which all lead back to the NSA breaking the law issue, and the powers of the president. Do we want someone who screws up this badly without oversight and checks and balances?
Just like Bush’s smears of anyone who disagreed with him is a subversive or traitor, now that many of his former supporters are disagreeing, those words need to be thrown back at them, to show just how bankrupt those tactics were. We need to start asking if Republicans who disagree with Bush are also traitors and weak on national security.
Finally, this poll shows how weak the “cult” really is – 23% and falling. While they make act invincible and all powerful, they are a small minority of the American public – they are not “America” at all, and the majority who disagrees with them are hardly “un-American.”
Q: At some point, won't it be difficult for Bush followers and their media allies to keep depicting Bush critics as fringe, deranged freaks, given that a solid majority of Americans are now Bush critics?
ReplyDeleteA: No. Sometimes only a small minority--a wise elite, a noble few--are sufficiently strong and ethical to stand unafraid for the righteous truth. What's remarkable is that Bush appealed to so many for so long: that's his genius, because in the normal course of affairs the true worth of such a farseeing individual is not recognized in his time.
Or something. But I'm pretty sure the answer is 'no,' and for evidence I refer to the number of American who still believe in the Saddam/AQ link. And WMD. And angels.
Gussie
I agree that Dems (and everyone else) need to step up now. It's also important to address the real fear and panic many folks feel. I heard a phone call on Calling All Wingnuts (http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/) which, to me, typifies the folks who are supporting Bush because they have succumbed to his politics of terror. Female politicians really need to lead from the front on this issue. The fact that terrorists have targeted the US shouldn't send us scurrying for authoritarian rule. If anything, constitutional law is responsible for the freedoms Western women enjoy. Laura Bush has become a much more prominent figure in Bush's second term and with good reason -- she can editorialize on the female Dems without making Georgie Porgy look like the weak bully he is. The local campaigns need to remind women that we fought for the rights that we have, and in the face of domestic violence attacks, we prevailed. We didn't bow down to the terrorist tactics back then (during the fight for suffrage and in the 60's and 70's) and we won't now. And we don't want our safety and peace of mind to come at the cost of our freedom. Women were a huge swing vote in the last election and a lot of the decisions were made based on the perception of which candidate was going to be a stronger defense candidate. Address that as much as the 4th amendment issues and neutralize Laura Bush's voice. We want a safer world for our children, but we are also concerned with the values those children learn.
ReplyDeleteWe must take this issue from the [R]'s. As Iraq descends into chaos and more soldiers and civilians are killed, the Demc must make it perfectly clear: George Bush foolishly rolled the dice with our national security in Iraq, and the [R]'s have backed him to the hilt. They forfeited their claim to be better on security.
ReplyDeleteDubya will never acknowledge his failures, he had his accountability moment. The rest of the Republicans are still reponsible for this, if not accountable.
I wonder if he'll be taking his war on terra industry with him? As Paul Craig Roberts points out on his Counterpunch website lot's of folks are milking that cow:
ReplyDeleteAmericans need to understand that many interests are using the "war on terror" to achieve their agendas. The Federalist Society is using the "war on terror" to achieve its agenda of concentrating power in the executive and packing the Supreme Court to this effect. The neocons are using the war to achieve their agenda of Israeli hegemony in the Middle East. Police agencies are using the war to remove constraints on their powers and to make themselves less accountable. Republicans are using the war to achieve one-party rule--theirs. The Bush administration is using the war to avoid accountability and evade constraints on executive powers. Arms industries, or what President Eisenhower called the "military-industrial complex," are using the war to fatten profits. Terrorism experts are using the war to gain visibility. Security firms are using it to gain customers. Readers can add to this list at will. The lack of debate gives carte blanche to these agendas.
Markus wrote: Even if the President backs down on the ports, it won't matter.
ReplyDeleteActually, I think the lack of trust Americans have of Bush right now is part of the reason the UAE/DPW thing is such an issue. Yes, it appeals to racist fears, but I don't think that accounts for all of it. I know that's not why I'm concerned about it.
I just don't trust these guys to put the nation's interests above their own personal agendas. Thanks to all the prior screw-ups and scandals, I think many others feel the same way.
Citizen said:
ReplyDelete"The dems have capitulated a great deal with this president"
One good arguement against this statement is that 57% of the Dems voted against the Iraqi war.
I guess now that it will be returning to the three states of the Ottoman Empire, with the Shiites that we are arming and training now aligning with their Shiite brethren in Iran makes the capilating thing sorta weak.
We had to go in there to take away the weapons Rummy sold them in the eighties, that they no longer had. But we will leave when they turn those weapons on us since we're in the way of them wiping out the Sunni. Oh shit, my head hurts.
I think this poll (and others that will soon come out) will be reflecting a new lack of trust in Bush due to both the incompetence and scandals.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think, however, that the public yet truly understands the authoritarian nature of this administration and its contempt for laws, checks and balances, as well as our democratic traditions.
In short, while these polls are good news, they do not necessarily mean success on the NSA and related issues, and there’s much work to be done in getting the public to actually accept what a threat to democracy this administration is. They are not “there” yet – not even close.
If Republicans don't have an electoral advantage on national security, what do they have?
ReplyDeleteThe software to count the vote?
Didn't steal 2 elections to represent the "will of the people". All they need to do is start up the wedge issues, proclaim they have "energized their base" and have the MSM echo chamber catapult the propaganda that, even though he represents a minority, they ALL went out to vote in such great numbers...
For purposes of holding the Bush Administration accountable for its criminal FISA violations, if nothing else, don't you want to work with these Republican Congresspeople?
ReplyDeleteOf course I do. Working with honorable and intellectually honest conservatives and Republicans is critical. Everything I've done on this issue is geared towards that. Making sure this is not a partisan issue - becuase it is not one and should not be one - is the first strategic priority, in my view.
ME: But now is not the time for passivity. Democrats need to step up the aggression now more than ever and take advantage of this wobbly, weakened President.
DS: To what end?
Ending one-party hegemony over our Federal Government and restoring checks & balances, restoring the rule of law, and, if necessary, creating some logjam, is the first step.
CUJO - I agree. I'm not sure which Americans think is worse -- that the Administration is corrupt or inept -- but politically, the ineptitude is a huge political blow for Bush because one who is inept cannot protect (I apologize for the unintended almost-rhyme).
In short, while these polls are good news, they do not necessarily mean success on the NSA and related issues, and there’s much work to be done in getting the public to actually accept what a threat to democracy this administration is. They are not “there” yet – not even close.
ReplyDeleteSo true, Zack. They are scrappy and aren't going to go down easily. It will take a prolonged, concerted, resolute effort.
But it is important that people see they are not invincible. Having the aura of the trustworthy, Good Father-protector disappear is a critical pre-requisite for persuading Americans to see just how radical and corrupt they are. Other than the straggling cultists, that aura is just about gone.
I think they knew the time for real policy initiatives was over even before the 2004 election, now they're just using every last remaining bit of political capital to scuttle the goddamned country.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the mission in Iraq is a failure, but wish to state publicly what needs to be said by us lib'rals, because the Right are gonna say that we say and think otherwise: (1) it was not a failure of our fighting troops, but of their leaders, and (2) I am not "happy" or "celebrating" at this failure; I am chagrined and angry at the stupidity and hubris that led the American people into this mess.
ReplyDeleteO'Reilly concluded e must withdraw from Iraq the other day as well. And just last Nov. he compared people like Dean to apologists for Hitler.
ReplyDeleteGlenn, a person is hanged, not hung. Assuming we're talking about capital punishment, of course.
ReplyDeleteGreat post once again, Glenn.
ReplyDelete"The absolute worst thing the Democrats could do now is follow the advice of the chronic loser Beltway consultants who excessively calculate every step and drain the life, principle and passion out of everything they touch."
I agree completely, and hopefully they won't snatch defeat, from the jaws of victory this time...
Glenn, a person is hanged, not hung. Assuming we're talking about capital punishment, of course.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the correction and even more so for the second sentence.
Guess we need to ask ourselves -- are chimpy and gang really the ones that make these decisions?
ReplyDeleteWell, in fairness Goldstein didn't call Buckley a librul.
ReplyDeleteI believe he stuck with "BillyBuck"
Laughing Gravy said:
ReplyDelete"I am not "happy" or "celebrating" at this failure;"
Amen
He based his Presidency on Iraq to his folly. Iraq exists no more. I don't know how to make a link in these comments but this is what I'm talking about:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/there-is-no-iraq_b_8118.html
That is because the West misunderstands the local culture of Iraq. An Iraqi Sunni is a thousand times more loyal to his fellow Sunnis than to some theoretical Iraqi government. The same is true of Shiites and even more true of Kurds. They don’t care about Iraq – we do.
It's a good post that sort of shows why their is only one outcome and that is three states.
Which basically means it's all downhill from here.
Anyone want to tell me how to do a link in these comments?
OilFieldGuy- Use this -
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Put the URL you want to link to in the space between the quotation marks - put the word you want over the link in the place where "site" is
Oh, sorry - it made a link - here, use this -
ReplyDeleteHREF=" http://www.yourdomain.com/">site
But put an at the beginning and a at the end
FUCK - Go here and look at LINK and use that -
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But now is not the time for passivity. Democrats need to step up the aggression now more than ever and take advantage of this wobbly, weakened President. Now is exactly when the Democrats need not fear anything. Americans have abandoned Bush.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree more (except fot the last statement). I'm sorry for the pessimism, but I just don't see a strong, unified, convincing democrat stategy in place to take full advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. How much more planetary-alignment political luck can a party get?
But we have a *long* 9 months to go until the midterms and you know that the well-oiled Rove propaganda machine will be running 24/7 until then. The American people, in general, have been shown to have short memrories. How many of them think about PlameGate anymore and with the Libby trial obscenely scheduled for January 2007 (!) it will have little impact in November.
The only hope for the country is if the Democrats take back control of the House or Senate. If not, I'm afraid the next two years are going to be very bleak and dangerous.
In the reality-based world what is the administration's record on protecting us from terror?
ReplyDeleteSandy Berger briefs Condoleeza Rice on the preeminence of the Al Queda threat. She has trouble recalling the meeting.
Dick Cheney forms a committee focussed on terrorism.
The President receives the famous PDB.
The worst attack on America happens. Cheney's committee has yet to meet. Administration cannot present any evidence of effective reaction to the PDB.
Condoleeza goes on the Sunday morning circuit to explain that no one could have anticipated this use of airliners -- she has trouble remembering that in July, she attended the G8 meeting in Genoa which was protected by anti-aircraft missiles.
And on and on. Osama cornered at Tora Bora, Bush relies on Afghani militias to contain him. Osama, aware of NSA capabilities, sends schlemiel with his cell phone east while slipping away elsewhere.
Airline passenger security stepped up; air cargo on passenger flights unscreened. Port security ignored.
Chemical plant security ignored.
Nature gives 3 day warning of impending attack on major American city. Wheels come off shiny new DHS in Katrina.
Not to mention Iraq where the US death toll will soon exceed 9-11; difficult to understand why some American lives should be protected and others should be wasted. Oh, and unrest in Afghanistan is growing and may soon surpass opium production.
The security issue should belong to the Democrats, but maybe it takes a while for public opinion to be noticed by politicians and even longer by campaign consultants.
I'm gonna try this link:
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Yay me!! Thanx anonymous.
ReplyDeleteGood thing FOX news has been working on those shiny new Iran war graphics
ReplyDeleteGlenn, I very much appreciate your abilities.
ReplyDeleteI think one strategy that progressives need are to find congressional leaders that are as you describe. Ones that are not like Biden, Clinton, etc. Constantly triangulating their positions.
I think Jack Murtha could carry this banner to begin with. The net roots drive in Kansas is a great start. But, that goes to the other end of the spectrum. Trying to stop the mewling idiot Pat Roberts should be a high priority. But, the other side of the net roots campaign need to be backing leaders that are worth a shit.
Arianna is right on track with supporting Murtha. We need to latch onto others.
The shiving of Hacket was very bad for this kind of energy. BTW
But, my point is finding and promoting ethical congressional leaders to get us out of this colossal nightmare in Iraq.
George Bush may now be declaring that the UAE is a trusted ally, but
ReplyDeleteI also distinctly remember him stating shortly after 9/11 that America makes no distinction - "If you harbor terrorists then you are our enemy." Well, 2 of the 9/11 terrorists were citizens of the UAE -- shouldn't Congressional Democrats be demanding to know why George Bush is handing over 20 of our ports to a country that, by his definition, is an enemy of our country?
It's also my understanding that all companies that manage American port terminals are automatically GIVEN copies of all of our government's secret, classified documents relating to that port's security. You or I, or members of Congress, for that matter, would never in a million years be given access to these documents but now they're going to be freely given to company that's owned by a foreign government that has embraced the Taliban, was a financial hub for the 9/11 attackers, and whose own ports were used to smuggle nuclear components to Iran, Libya, and North Korea????
I totally agree with Glenn - now is NOT the time for passivity. I think Congressional Republicans may very well cave in on this issue and let the Dubai port deal go through (after they beat their chests and get the requisite 45-day review). George Bush not only doesn't have the right to break the law but he also doesn't have the right to cut deals with foreign governments that might put this country at even greater risk for another terrorist attack. Congressional Democrats need to make it abundantly clear that opposing this has nothing to do with racism and it's not paranoia - it's just plain WRONG!!
Whether Democratic schlemiels do anything or not, it will just get worse and worse for Bush. He and his XYY staff will continue their offensive tactics to the end. By 2008, Bush might be the most unpopular president ever. So here's my big idea. The Democratic candidate has to be Gore. Gore represents what might have been. He represents what should have been. No other Democrat would give voters such a perfect way to repudiate Bush.
ReplyDeleteWell it certainly looks like things are shaping up nicely for us to be in a position to take back our country at the mid-terms. Bush is finally living down to his ability, in spite of the MSM's strange obsession with maintaining the myth of Bush as "Fearless Leader." But then I get the feeling I've been here before.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, in 2000 it seemed almost impossible that the Republicans could sneak in an pull out a win. But don't forget the MSM's need to "keep it interesting." Like an impending Superbowl, if the public thinks it's a slam-dunk they wont watch. Elections are big nights for ratings. If Bush keeps spiraling, come August they'll start talking about how "it looks bad for the Republicans, but could it be that if....things might start to turn on the Dems?" Then they spend a few weeks making it happen and all of a sudden.. BOOM! "We have us a horse race ladies and gentlemen!" Oh how exciting.
If the MSM would go back to doing its job, we could feel alot dafer about the outcome. Maybe they will. FOX won't. But maybe the rest of the MSM will get over its need to for some reason, recognize FOX as an equal, the way they do now. FOX is GOPTV. Always has been--always will be. It's a bizarre creation that needs to be tied to Bush like a rock as he sinks to the bottom. Then even the nutless MSM wil have an easy time calling them the idiots we all know them to be. But that will take some serious sinking on Bush's part.
He certainly seems on his way down.
"None of his old tricks are working, and the new ones are backfiring."
ReplyDeleteWhich is why I hope he isn't allowed to gain much traction with this latest desperate ploy: saying Al Queda was behind the (conveniently thwarted) attempt to blow up a Saudi oil field.
After a certain time, people just have to recognize these war machine propaganda phony stories for what they are: phony.
Meanwhile, another big LIE. Bush said he heard about this deal from the press, but it turns out Andy Card told him LAST THURSDAY, before this came out in the press.
Is he a pathological liar, unable to tell the truth? Probably. Pathological liars have a much easier time convincing people of what they say as they themselves believe their own lies.
Finally, is the UP story true? Keith Olberman reported tonight that it may be that UAE ALREADY has control of 15 ports in this country. If that is accurate, I hope they can rescind those deals.
I think I was right when I first wrote that this Port deal was a gift dropped into our laps (assuming it does not go through). Hopefully it will be the catalyst that allows us to pull the plug on this dying Presidency.
Interesting that this secretive CFIUS agency was set up in 1988 by Bush Sr. These people have been selling out America for at least since then. Clinton tried, with the Chinese deal, but was rebuked. If he were President now, he'd have that villian Vernon Jordan carrying his water through all the back allys as he tried to get this deal through.
I sure hope the result of all this is not that Hillary becomes President. The cozy Clinton/Bush cabal is one big blob of cynical, lawless, corrupt thievery.
RUSS FEINGOLD!
I love what one poster wrote and think I will make it my motto:
WHEN SURROUNDED BY ALLIGATORS, YOU DRAIN THE SWAMP.
Let's make a little list, of all the "mouthpieces" for corruption, so we reminder it when our time comes.
ReplyDeleteFirst on the list:
David Gregory of MSNBC
Joe Klein
John Roberts of CNN
In philosophy there's an area called 'the creation of entities" that covers how we come to grasp a thing as a thing. When do a few sticks become a chair--stuff like that. One of the reaons it's important is that when an entity comes into being, it's easier to understand how it interacts with the world because we can define just what the entity is. Clearly it's easier to study ballistics by describing things called 'bullets' rather than complex structures of composite metals, which are hard to get your head around.
ReplyDeleteIt gets a little tricky when we talk about entities like the "Main-Stream Media." Clearly there is such a thing, and it does effect the world, but it's hard to know exactly how because it's hard to define exactly what the MSM is. Among other things, the MSM is a thing that helps shape conventional wisdom. It's this capacity to help shape conventional wisdom that makes it so important in winning elections.
Sommerby over at Daily Howler has been doing alot of work on how the MSM got Bush elected. It's hard to say why, but they (it?) did. And now they refuse to acknowledge their role in this debacle.
It has something to do with the fact that they tried to get Clinton impeached, and the public didn't go along with it, and their anger at Clinton was transferred to Gore, and they thought they'd teach us all a lesson in remembering who calls the shots around here by foisting Bush on us--or at least making it a horserace and scaring us--but they got Bush elected, so it's on their heads. Perhaps this is why they've been so reluctant to even admit the debacle--their visceral sense of responsibilty, and their desire to avoid it. Maybe this is why they worked so hard all this time to maintain the image of Bush as something other than a colossal failure. I mean, come on, how many times have you wondered what Bush would have to do to be called out. They IMPEACHED Clinton for getting his dick sucked, for gods sake--how can this monstrous freakshow of an administration be talked about like it's something rational. Cheney, Rumsfeld and the gang have been the most incompetent people ever to work their offices. Yet here we are, actually having to ponder what we need to do to drive these people from power.
(Then there's the Democrats. Thats the alternative? Then there's the whole corrupt system. When will somebody come along and drive the money people from the temple? So we have our hands full.)
I'm starting to ramble, but I think we need to come to some understanding of the role of the MSM in the modern world. Either it needs to be made to go back to serving the function it once did as watchdog, whistleblower, or some new entity will have to take over that role. But it's vital we have an organ of oversight with the power to make its calls matter. Since they dumped the fairness doctrine the MSM has become a money driven entertainment vehicle, ripe for partisan manipulation. Maybe the internet will take over the job the MSM once did.
Anyway, the MSM is a tough entity to figure out, but we need to if we're going to get free from its current corporate-sponsored right-wing ability to let guys like these turn our country into a joke.
Cause they'll keep doing it if we don't stop them.
I found this on John Conyers website, haven't read it yet, but it seems apropos of this and other discussions we've had on this blog. AMERICA FOR SALE.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.democraticleader.house.gov/pdf/AmericaForSale.pdf
I never ceased to be amazed at how smart David Shaughnessy is.
ReplyDelete"But now is not the time for passivity. Democrats need to step up the aggression now more than ever and take advantage of this wobbly, weakened President."
--To what end?"
Exactly. What's the point here? To get rid of Republicans? But Republicans are not the problem. Their control of both the Executive and the two Houses, plus the specific group of amoral, secretive globalist thugs who are in control, is what enables them to engage in all these evil deeds. So an argument could be made that an opposition party controlling one part of Government is essential.
But if the Democrats were in control of all three, depending on who was at the helm, the corruption could be twice as bad.
Historically, Democrats are not a "pure" party, guided by principle. They have a history of being corrupt to the core, with all their union connections to criminals, back office deals, cynical catering to special interest groups about whom the leaders care nothing, etc.
So is this becoming a "Democrat" movement? If so, there will be the immediate, short term advantage of kicking out this particular highly corrupt cabal, but the evil playbook is going to stay the same.
I am not interested only in who's being kicked out. I want to know who's going in.
I want Congress held accountable, both parties, for the unbelievably destructive way they have concentrated on lining their own pockets and played Nero while Rome burns.
Are we going to support principled Republicans? Why not? Is it the ideas which matter, or merely the party loyalty? Are we putting in Democrats merely to have them trot out all their long ago proven ineffective and morally objectionable socialist policies, that do so much damage to a free society?
I'm interested in who the posters on this site would accept as President? Hillary Clinton?
That would just be substituting the Cult of Bush for the Cult of Special Interest Groups. What's the gain?
Finally, if one wants the Democratic parallel to the robotic Bush cultists who have enabled the Imperial Presidency to take hold, go over to The Huffington Post and read the blog by Rep. Brown, the Democrat who is apparently loathed by the grass roots netroots because he kept another Democrat they prefer from being the candidate.
That other candidate, whose name I forget, is someone who is opposed to the war in Iraq, but someone who, if what I have been reading about him is correct, is a strident, Big Government War Hawk, who may be opposed to THIS war, but hardly against the principle of initiating unprovoked aggression against other countries.
When you read the attacks on Rep. Brown on Huffington Post by Democrats, you have to be very afraid. These people make the Bartaliyas sound like church mice.
Is THAT representative of the grassroots netroots movement? If so, we are doomed. We would be exchanging one set of monsters for another. Nothing to be gained there. Only an emphasis on the principles we hold dear, and a vigorous promise on the part of whomever we support to advance those principles, will save the day.
Is anyone else as horrified as I am to hear Morton Kondracke, Charles Krauthammer, and Fred Barnes, the architects of this insane, failed policy of death and destruction, keep mouthing off their same disgusting neocon crap?
ReplyDeleteThey have no shame. They take no responsibility. They continue to worship the same God of Global Domination at the expense of everything that is moral and rational.
Could three people be more representative (well, thrown in Richard Perle) of the "apres moi, le deluge" doctrine?
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ReplyDeleteOh my gosh! I finally figured out how to put something in italics!
ReplyDeleteBut I am a computer dummy, and I see that oilfieldguy understood how to create a link, but I still don't understand at all.
Could someone spell it out for me, really easily like you are talking to a computer dummy, like first you type a >, then you write the word "link" in quotation marks, leaving no space, then you copy the url with your mouse, then you click that where it says link, then you put a >, or whatever it is.
I just can't follow the instructions on that site that explained to oilfieldguy how to do it.
Thanks to anyone who can explain this to me.
Also, thanks for the great post from Paul Craig Roberts and the terrific Huffington Post link, which everyone should read, about Iraq.
If the Port deal goes through, and there is no investigation of, and change in, the NSA spying programs, then I think that in 2008 there should be a third party Presidential ticket, with maybe Russ Feingold and Paul Craig Roberts as President and VP.
I know it didn't work with Perot, but that was then, and this is now. Things have changed. It's possible that there is no solution to be found in the present, entrenched two party system.
ReplyDeleteI'm interested in who the posters on this site would accept as President? Hillary Clinton?
Personally, the person I would most like to see be president is the man who should have been president all along- Al Gore. Though he ran a poor campaign (and was certainly victimized by the MSM, as another poster pointed out), I have been mightily impressed with him since he has left office. He has been almost the lone voice of opposition over much of the past six years, and he's never failed to present his opposition in anything but the most thoughtful and statesman-like manner. If you are looking for a comprehensive and prescient critique of the Bush administration, all you have to do is track down the transcripts of Gore's policy speeches. (Speeches which were often met with sniggering and derision by the same MSM elements that declared Bush's debate performances "presidential.")
I don't think he'll run, as Hillary will end up absorbing most of the resources he would need, but there is no question in my mind that he would be my first choice for president in 2008.
Said Anonymous at 2:57 AM:
ReplyDelete"...When you read the attacks on Rep. Brown on Huffington Post by Democrats, you have to be very afraid. These people make the Bartaliyas sound like church mice.
Is THAT representative of the grassroots netroots movement? If so, we are doomed. We would be exchanging one set of monsters for another. Nothing to be gained there. Only an emphasis on the principles we hold dear, and a vigorous promise on the part of whomever we support to advance those principles, will save the day."
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Anonymous -
You are speaking of the Paul Hackett affair in Ohio, when referencing the anger at "Rep. Brown."
I know something about this "affair" and I would ask that before passing judgment, you and others take the time to learn some of what "went down" and why so many citizens all across this country who were supporting Paul Hackett feel robbed.
Paul Hackett is no Big Goverment War Hawk, as you've alleged. He is a Marine Reservist who has served a tour in Iraq. He is a NON-politician attorney with his own practice, and a young family. He is, in short, an average citizen, with intimate knowledge of what has happened on the ground in Iraq, and who had the courage to say what he believed about that, and about other hard truths about the state of our country (anathema to D.C. insiders).
Sherrod Brown, the long-time incumbent in the House, did all he could, after he joined the Senate race, to push Hackett out of the race to avoid a Primary battle, and he has finally succeeded. He used his long-time political connections in Ohio and D.C. and his pull with the DSCC Washington insiders like Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid to put pressure on Hackett. He got Rep. Waxman to call Hackett financial supporters in CA to ask them to stop supporting Hackett. Someone spread rumors that led to Harry Reid calling Paul Hackett last November to accuse him of being involved in "war crimes" in Iraq based on nonexistent photographs being whispered about. Etc., etc. Paul Hackett (who almost won a Congressional race in one of the most conservative districts in Ohio last year), was ASKED to run for the Senate, when Brown wouldn't, by Schumer and Reid and their wives. He agreed. And only then did Brown change his mind and join the race as well. And suddenly, Paul Hackett was now 'out of favor' with the same people who had urged and convinced him to run.
The bottom line here, is that the DSCC and the DCCC are gatekeepers for the Democrats in Congress. No one they wish to block gets into Congress. They control the funds, the strings, the access. And Paul Hackett, like MANY other citizen candidates around the country, are getting the shaft from these D.C. Democratic insiders. [Of which Howard Dean and the DNC are NOT part, btw.] There is, in fact, a war going on inside the Democratic Party. And you are absolutely right to question what will change come November should the Democrats "win," if this fundamental divide in the Party continues to be papered over.
Sherrod Brown and company are simply reaping what they sowed. I have no sympathy for his new-found pleas for "unity." In this case, 'Democratic Unity is the Last Refuge of a Scoundrel.'
Paul Hackett, and the voters of Ohio, deserved better.
I can hardly wait to see how turdblossom is going to spin Bill Buckley's verdict that the Iraq war has failed. He could have added that the gates of hell now have opened wide and very soon we'll be reaping the whirlwind, but being a gentleman he wished to keep his discourse civil.
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm not a gentleman anymore and I can't be civil. Six solid years of lies and bullshit from these fascist swine Republicans have turned me around.
I've finally come to believe that anyone in America who votes for a Republican this November is a god damned traitor.
And you know why. I don't have to explain it.
Oh, and a special message to all the turd blossom trolls out there: Bend down, and kiss me royal Irish arse.
John Palcewski
http://www.palcewski.com/JP
Better yet, here's Paul Hackett in his own words, in an appearance last Thursday evening, from a piece in the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
ReplyDelete"...Hackett spoke for about 45 minutes to the Anderson Newtown Democratic Club, which is based in the Cincinnati suburbs not far from his home in Indian Hill. About 80 people were in the audience, including former Democratic Gov. John Gilligan, and they gave Hackett a standing ovation at the start and finish of his talk. Not one person rose to challenge him for attacking Brown, and it was clear the Democrats had warm feelings for him.
At one point, Hackett noted that people in southern Ohio tend to view the world differently than those in Shaker Heights, a Cleveland suburb. In Shaker Heights, he said, people told him he sounded angry while campaigning. Hackett said he would respond, ''If you're not angry, you're not paying attention."
Hackett, a major in the Marine Corps Reserves, said it would be a ''cold day in hell'' before he would make peace with Brown. At the same time, he went out of his way to praise U.S. Rep. Ted Strickland, the Democrat running for governor.
''Ted's a great guy despite his relationship with Sherrod, I still love Ted,'' Hackett said. 'We've got to get behind somebody who is going to win the Statehouse."
Hackett spoke off the cuff for about 20 minutes, then took questions from the floor. That's when he fired his salvo at Brown, saying the Lorain congressman had ''swiftboated'' him ''by spreading rumors about my service in Iraq.''
At the end of his remarks, he said he shouldn't have cussed.
"I apologize for my profanity,'' he said.
Hackett also heaped scorn on Democratic leaders in Washington. He made it obvious he does not like New York Sen. Charles Schumer, whom he said recruited him, then abandoned him, in the Ohio Senate contest, and Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, who runs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. He said Hamilton County Democrats should keep Emanuel at bay as they work to capture Ohio's 2nd Congressional District from Republicans this year.
''We want to keep all his minions in Washington, D.C.,'' Hackett said. ''We want his money. We don't want his help."
Finally, he offered this appraisal of congressional Democrats: ''God bless their lost souls.""
--By Bill Sloat
That may help people make up their own minds. The rest is here (including some Brown rebuttals) - scroll down a bit:
http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/openers/index.ssf?/mtlogs/cleve_openers/archives/2006_02.html#115638
P.S. John Palcewski - Ever heard of "Irish Alzheimer's"? There's a choice quote from Hackett citing it, in the linked piece above. Though it probably qualifies as traitorous, based on your last post..
From War Without End
ReplyDelete"Israeli Origins of Bush II's Iraq War:
"To reiterate the central point of this essay: the vision of "regime change" in the Middle East through external, militant action originated in Israel, and its sole purpose was to advance the strategic interests of Israel. It had nothing to do with bringing "democracy" to Muslims. It had nothing to do with any terrorist threat to the United States. Those latter arguments accreted to the idea of regime change as the primary military actor changed from Israel to the United States. But the Israeli government would continue to be a fundamental supporter of the regional military action, even as the ostensible justifications for action changed. The Sharon government advocated the American attacks on Iraq and has preached the necessity of strikes on Iran.
It would appear that for Ariel Sharon during the Bush II administration, the strategic benefits that would accrue to Israel from such a militant restructuring of the Middle East were the same as those that Likudniks sought in the 1980s. But unlike Begin's failed incursion into Lebanon in 1982, the Bush II effort not only relied upon the much greater power of the United States but also was wrapped in a cover of "democracy" and American national interest, effectively masking the true objective of Israeli hegemony. That helps to explain the much greater success of this intervention, which has come at no cost to Israel.
Instead, it has come at a cost to the United States. The United States has tarnished its international reputation through its militarily aggressive actions in contravention of prevailing international norms. It has also had to pay significant costs in blood and money: rather, the American people have had to pay those costs. And the United States has made itself, and the American people, a major target of international terrorism. In short, the benefits derived by the United States from its Middle East military adventure are highly questionable; but that is easily understood if one recognizes that the policy the Bush II administration has pursued did not originate as one to benefit the interests of the United States but rather to benefit those of Israel, as those interests have been perceived by the Israeli Right."
Reagan had no truck with this group. Clinton courted them, and Bush 11 married them.
If this Presidency does die, unless the death notice contains the names of these "Israel before the United States" lunatic warmongers, nothing is going to change.
Remember those "other programs" we all speculated about re: warrantless spying?
ReplyDeleteHere's an interesting post from Huffington Post, by a poster who calls himself Ronald Reagan.
"Prior to 9/11, the FBI had discovered the presence of a massive spy ring inside the United States run by the government of Israel. This seems a harsh gratitude from a nation which obtains 10% of its annual budget from the American taxpayer, $3+ billion a year. Over the years, American taxpayers have been required to send Israel more than four times what the US spent to go to the moon.
What Israel has done in return was to set up government subsidized telecommunications companies which operate here in the United States. One of these companies is Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for 90% of the phone companies in the USA. Amdocs' main computer center for billing is actually in Israel and allows those with access to do what intelligence agencies call "traffic analysis"; a picture of someone's activities based on a pattern of who they are calling and when. Another Israeli telecom company is Comverse Infosys, which subcontracts the installation of the automatic tapping equipment now built into every phone system in America. Comverse maintains its own connections to all this phone tapping equipment, insisting that it is for maintenance purposes only. However, Converse has been named as the most likely source for leaked information regarding telephone calls by law enforcement that derailed several investigations into not only espionage, but drug running as well. Yet another Israeli telecom company is Odigo, which provides the core message passing system for all the "Instant Message" services. Two hours before the attacks on the World Trade Towers, Odigo employees received a warning. Odigo has an office 2 blocks from the former location of the World Trade Towers.
Let us be clear here. There is nothing benign about Israel spying on the United States. When Jonathan Pollard stole our nuclear secrets (which your taxes paid to develop) and sent them to Israel, Israel did not hesitate to trade those secrets to the USSR in exchange for increased emigration quotas.
The implication of these facts is that the billions of our tax dollars sent to Israel (while women and children sleep in America's alleys and eat out of trash bins) have bought and paid for a monstrous phone tracking and phone tapping system that can eavesdrop on almost any phone call in America. Even the White House phones were open to such tapping by listening in on the other end outside the White House itself.
This actually happened. The Ken Starr report on Whitewater describes how Bill Clinton informed Monica Lewinsky that their phone sex conversations had been recorded. At the same time, Clinton ordered the FBI to cease the hunt for an Israeli mole known to be operating inside the White House itself!
So here we have a foreign nation able to listen in on most phones at will, using taps that cannot be found because they are built into the phone system itself, and willing to use the information gleaned from those calls to blackmail Americans into any desired course of action. This may well be what Ariel Sharon meant when he stated that the Jewish people control America.
That the information gleaned from these phone taps is being used to coerce the behavior of key individuals in the US Government and media is illustrated by the manner in which the government and the media have handled this scandal of the largest spy ring ever uncovered inside the United States, and of phone taps on all of our phones. They are downplaying it. Actually, burying it is a better word.
Fox News, alone of all the media, actually ran the story as a four part broadcast, and put the story up on its web site. Then, without explanation, Fox News erased the story from their web site and have never mentioned it again. CNN followed by "Orwellizing" their report of the two hour advance warning of the WTC attacks sent to Odigo employees. But far more telling is the admission made by a US Official in part one of the Fox News report that hard evidence existed linking the events of 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the more than 200 Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, but that this evidence had been CLASSIFIED.
Since then, any and all mention of the Israeli spy ring and phone tapping scandal has resulted in a barrage of shrill screams of "hate" and "anti-Semite", two well worn and frankly over used devices to try to silence discussion on any topic unfavorable to the nation which owns the spy ring in question.
The story of the uncovering of the largest spy ring ever discovered inside the United States should be the story of the century, if indeed the US media is looking out for the best interests of the American people. That this spy ring helped drug smugglers evade investigators should be a major scandal, if indeed the US media is looking out for the best interests of the American people. That the spy ring includes companies able to track and tap into any phone in America, including the White House, should be a cause celebre', if indeed the US media is looking out for the best interests of the American people.
But they are not. The media is trying to bury this story. They are spiking it, erasing it from their web sites in a chilling real-life Orwellian rewriting of history.
The actions of the US media are those of people trying to protect this spy ring and those that the spy ring worked for.
The actions of the US media are those of traitors to the American people. "
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring2.html
Unfortunately for the Zionist KHAZARS they can not explain this away. Further everyone is preparing to do away with their bullshit, so if they don't come clean......this is going to become Russia times ten for them.
http://savethemales.ca
must say - like the idea of seeing gore run. What would the lying liars that brough the "invented the internet" hoax say now and how would the public react.
ReplyDeleteClearly, gore got a raw deal, the election was stolen, and then chimpy got more than a "free pass" from a compliant media -- the actively participated in fostering lies on the American public, "catapulting the propaganda"
I doubt the MSM would be nice to Gore second time around, but perhaps enough people have see the pundits and media whores for what they are now and the MSM's credibility would totally collapse.
Perhaps realizing this, the MSM would find a way to jump on the Gore bandwagon to prevent any discussison about how the most incompetent, dangerous president in US history was promoted to the white house based on lies and corruption that the MSM refused to adequately cover.
Personally, I believe the lying liars would contintue to lie regardless, but could be a fascinating thing to see.
The "big money" may be on hillary just to prevent Gore from running -- largely for the reasons I have mentioned.
Getting behind hillary will ensure that any number of important issues will not be discussed and it will likely increase the "horserace" style coverage...
Clinton is bad news for us, so she is probably the MSM's best hope. I doubt that anyone will have the audacity to seriously get behind joe "loseran"...
I could be completely wrong, but here's something I've just posted to my blog as to what the Repubs may be waiting to pull out of their sleeve for the mid terms:
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Over at Steve Clemons' blog, we find the following entry, which about half way down starts talking about an interesting subject I haven't seen any discussion on elsewhere:
Let's jump out of terror-watch mode for a moment though and consider another interesting race -- that for Secretary General of the United Nations.
Interestingly, a name that appears on every serious list as a potential successor to Kofi Annan, whose term ends on December 31st of this year, is Prince Zeid Raed al-Hussein of Jordan.
Richard Holbrooke identifies Prince Zeid as a "dark horse" candidate for the UN Secretary General job, but he has a major ally working quietly (believe it or not) on his behalf: U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton.
Reading it all is a good idea; I have no idea who Clemons is (found the site from Talking Points Memo), and, well, in interests of further full disclosure, no idea who several of the other people named in the story are, either. But what I find interesting about it right now is what Clemons says a bit further on:
Zeid is a Muslim and descends from the royal line of princes and kings who claim direct descendency from Muhammad.
I agree with John Bolton that merit should dictate who takes the helm as UN Secretary General, but I find myself also agreeing with him that elevating someone like Zeid to the position of Secretary General might send a number of constructive signals to the Muslim -- that they matter and have leaders engaged in constructive stake-holding in the global system.
John Bolton is, to all reports (and I grant you, everything I've read about him has been through a left wing filter) an avid neocon and one of Bush/Cheney's made men... and he's not renowned as having a particularly subtle diplomatic mind. The idea that he, and the people behind him, are trying to appease the international Muslim community by putting an Islamic Prince from Jordan in charge of the United Nations just rings hollow to me.
On the other hand, Karl Rove is always looking for more red meat to feed to the conservative base, and those whackos already hate the United Nations. Putting a Muslim into the Secretary-General's chair -- especially a titled Prince whose full name includes the magic two syllables, 'Hussein' -- strikes me as a positively wonderful way to whip the mouth breathers out there into a frenzy.
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Read it all at here, if you like. I could be being paranoid, but, well, I don't know...
Thoughts on three issues related to Glenn's comments in three posts:
ReplyDelete1. Everyone sounds pretty detached in their comments about the Iraq War. No question that it was a huge mistake if not criminal enterprise from the outset -- what else can you call "preemptive war". It was illegal under international law from the outset. But lest we forget, we have to get behind Murtha now. Here's why:
a) BushCo continues to prop up politicans in Iraq who were exiles from that country and have no support within the country;
b) BushCo refuses to say whether they plan on a permanent presence in Iraq; i.e. the 14 bases;
c) There are only three options at this point in Iraq: 1) "Cut and run", 2) Go on bended knee to the UN and Arab League and beg for international help so as to remove the American footprint on security in Iraq; and 3) "Stay the course" and in the end allow our troops to be caught in the middle of civil war. In this scenario, our troops will become/remain the enemy of all sides.
Of these three options which takes real courage, real integrity, and an honest effort to do what is best for the world, America, and our troops and which strategy is BushCo least likely to adopt?
My questions are not for abstract consumption on this post. My son is currently serving in Iraq with his National Guard unit. His father (a Vietnam Vet) and I are terrified.
Thoughts on three issues related to Glenn's comments in three posts:
ReplyDeleteThe upside of the fiasco that has come to symbolize the Bush administration is this: The country is coming to despise the polarization of politics.
There is only one person who can bring this country together and go forward and it is Al Gore. In his speeches and in his statements in Saudi Arabia, he looks Americans in the eye, tells us truth, and offers what we are missing: Accountability for actions taken in the name of the United States.
Americans, Republicans, Independents, and Democrats should begin to work together to draft him as a candidate for 2008.
Thoughts on three issues related to Glenn's comments in three posts:
ReplyDelete3. I too was impressed with Paul Hackett. Nevertheless, from a practical standpoint, DC Democrats (Rahm Emanuel) tried mightly to enlist him to run against the woman who defeated him by a thin margin in the special election. She has to stand for election again in November 2006. He should have done so as a neophyte candidate rather than face Sherrod Brown (a true progressive) in the primary for a senate seat.
For Tech-no-Dweebs (and I come as a Highly Certified Tech-no Dweeb as any you find on the Internets!! *wink* Oh and I am the QUEEN of TYPOS)
ReplyDeleteEasy to use HTML TAGS:
These things inside brackets *< and >* - are called *tags* and must be in pairs. The first TAG turns the feature *ON* the last tage turns if *OFF* (And OFF is represented by a * / * in front of the symbol inside the brackets for the ON tag.
Tags are placed in a *NESTING* order as you type them - such that IF you BOLD, then ITALICS the closing tags will be put in the reverse order: ITALICS, then BOLD to turn them OFF.
As you can read on the top of the "Leave your Comment" space are three TAGS listed - but only in the ON form. (You type the ON Tag first and then complete with the OFF tag at the end of the commentby adding / to the tag.)
NOW, Blogger will not let me type the actual TAGS and leave them visible for you to see. But they are just like you see on the top of the "Leave a Comment" section above.
b = BOLD
i = ITALICS
a = For making a URL link - the full ON part of a URL link starts as --
a bracket facing like this: <
Then type this: a href="
Then you put the complete URL Link - i.e. -
http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/0223n
Then add a *quote* (") and bracket ( > ) (facing the the direction shown.)
After this * > * bracket symbol you must write a name for what the link goes to (and this will become the highlighted and underlined LINK) - Give it a name - Like "National Journal Article"
Then finish the TAG with the OFF symbol for this *a* tag: Type a bracket facing this way < then / and then the letter *a* and followed by a bracket facing this way > .
IT will come out like this:
National Journal Article
Two tricks - (1) commas which are slanted sometimes dont work properly. (2) and , if you type this tag backwards as in * / * then * a *-- this will underline everything which comes after!! (A typical typo of mine. *smile*)
Other useful tags - But not in allowed in BLOGGER - can be these:
blockquote = BLOCKQUOTE
u = UNDERLINE
strike = STRIKE-THROUGH
and here is page for some simple HTML basics.
So give this a TRY!! and hope to see some nice and easy links to your next URL references!
Great post, Glenn! The real irony here is that, as you have written about in the past, Republicans who speak out against Bush are "lefties" and "traitors", especailly to their voting base. So criticizing Bush for electoral gain is going to be an uphill battle requring intense re-education in the Red States for the Republicans. And even if most of them still win (never underestimate the Democrats drive to fail), Bush loses.
ReplyDeleteI'm a 58 year-old woman and a lifelong Democrat who's been waiting all her life to see a woman win the presidency but I'd support Al Gore or Russ Feingold in 2008 before I'd support Hillary Clinton. If Gore decides to run and if he speaks out as passionately as he did when news of Bush's domestic spying program came out, I think he could not only win enough primaries to get the nomination, but I think he could very well win the election (again!).
ReplyDeleteI think it's also worth pointing out that Sherrod Brown was beating Paul Hackett here in Ohio by a 2 to 1 margin when he dropped out of the Senate race. Paul Hackett's campaign was poorly organized from the start and his positions on a lot of key issues that I'm concerned about were either vague or non-existent. Sherrod Brown has an excllent progressive voting record and an excellent reputation. Quite frankly, I'd settled on Sherrod Brown even before Hackett dropped out. Hackett's recent behavior has only confirmed that I made the right choice.
I don't know how helpful this will be,but I'll throw it out there anyway:
ReplyDeleteI live in GA,metro Atlanta.Once you get outside of the Atlanta city limits,the outlying areas are very megachurchy "red".
Yesterday while grocery shopping I overheard two guys talking about liberals being traitors,racists,the usual Fox blah,blah,along with the proper punishment.In this case being hung up and shot full of holes.
After a couple of minutes of this I couldn't keep my mouth shut any longer.
So I said,"Think about what you just said.Would you still feel that way if someone came and forced your neighbors or a family member out of bed,took them out into the front yard,hung and then shot them?What if your son,daughter,brother,sister,mom or dad didn't agree with the President and that happened to them?Would you just stand by and applaud?Would you be for killing their children too,to stop those ideas from being passed along?You do realize you are calling for the deaths of your own fellow Americans here,don't you?"
At first the response was defensive,so I asked again,the last question,"what you are promoting is the idea of killing any American,your own neighbors and family,if they disagree with your politics,is that correct?"One guy said yes,the other paused and said"no,I never thought about it in terms so close to home before".
I went on to say that I wasn't trying to get them to become Democrats,just to think about what they're advocating.The guy who said yes eventually did admit that no,he wouldn't want to see anyone he cared about get hurt,but he didn't think anyone he knew disagreed with the President.I said maybe they might be scared to speak out in front of him because of the"side"he has chosen.
My point being that when it comes to this eliminationist crap we're subjected to via Fox and other media punditry,it's rather abstract to the viewer.Obviously you can't sway the super hard core neocon enabler from that,but otherwise regular working class conservatives might be willing to open up a little if you can make it less abstract and more personal.
I have to admit,I was not comfortable doing this,but my son was standing there with me,and I couldn't let him hear this and say nothing.
In the end,both guys were actually more subdued than they were initially,and we had a fairly constructive conversation.But it took alot of patience from me to keep the thing on track.I may not have changed their minds about much,but I think I managed to personalize this "liberals are traitors"meme for them some,so maybe they'll think before they start calling for executions of their family and community members openly.
The bonus was my son learned a lesson in standing up for what he believes in.He was silent(which for him is a big deal,lol)through this whole thing until we got to the car."Mom,it's hard sometimes to stand up to mean people isn't it?"I said yes,it is.He then said"but if you don't it's pretty much the same as saying it's ok to be nasty to other people,right?"I said yep,and sometimes it might even get you into trouble,but you still should try.He also figured out that this is why Mom is so concerned about politics,and wanted to know what he could do(he's 12)since he can't vote yet.From there came a lengthy lesson in civics,which I'll spare you all,lol.
So that's my approach with people,one on one now.Asking them directly if they'd REALLY want someone they knew and cared for hurt just because of different ideas or politics.Sometimes it works,sometimes it doesn't.But if we're going to try moving people at the roots level,it might be a helpful place to come from,making it very personal instead of abstract.Hitting them where they live,so to speak.
karen,
ReplyDeleteThanks! That was so NICE of you. I have my work cut out for me. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
"If the emerging "we" only supports Democratic candidates, or if it succumbs to the ferocity and money of hyper-partisan Democratic groups like MoveOn.org, it will not include me."
ReplyDeleteThere is no single person in this country who was more against the confirmation of Samuel Alito than I was. And that had nothing to do with the abortion issue because I personally think abortion rights are secure in this country and will continue to be so.
I took the time (over one hundred hours) to read the cases and his dissents in those cases which dealt with the issues which interested me. I discovered that he is, according to my book of ethics, the exact kind of person I don't want to see on the SC: a strident police state authoritarian with a cold, ruthless heart, and a cynical careerist who glad-handed, in a most cunning and crafted way, his ascent through the ranks of the judicial community.
The only thing that made me think, momentarily, more favorably about him was the "Say No to Alito" email I got from MoveOn.
Their attack on him was so moronic, distorted, deceptive and intellectually dishonest that it gave me pause. Gosh, I said, what's the alternative? Are these the people I want to be selecting SC Justices? Hell, no.
So I have to agree forcefully with David S. that to the extent that corrupt, money driven, hyper-partisan, unprincipled groups like MoveOn, who play to the same type of irrational fears that Bushco uses to rope in the hysterical anti-intellectual members of the Christian right, are leading the troops, I bow out.
Also, having now read up on Hackett, including posts on this site, I am glad he is not running.
The trouble with a lot of Democrats is that when they agree with a single issue mouthed by some candidate, they neglect to consider that person's whole history and what the person stands for before they throw their total support to him.
This is true of Murtha, who is right about Iraq, but who has the exact same mean, authoritarian mindset as Alito, and would be a frightening person to see in office, and Hackett, a loose tempered, grudge holding crybaby who seems to have a feeling of entitlement (Boo hoo, that the Party wouldn't fund a guy whose whole political resume is that he held a city council seat---let him go out and raise his own funds if he feels he has a message that people support), etc.
As for Gore, he's been brilliant on the NSA matter, and gave one of the most thrilling speeches anyone has given in years.
But his record as a politican, and as a person, up until recently is no cause for cheer, imo.
Can someone please tell me why all Democrats who profess to care about the types of issues we discuss on this site are not enthusiastically for Feingold?
How can anyone underestimate the fierce independence and committment to principle that is evidenced by the fact that he was the only Senator to vote against the Patriot Act?
I personally think that only someone to whom authoritarianism and the abuse of power are repugnant would be so wary of the Patriot Act.
He waged a nine hour filibuster singlehandedly against its renewal.
His questioning of Gonazles was actually intelligent, and effective, unlike most others.
He seems to be about the closest thing to a Democrat version of Reagan, who I think was one of the greatest Presidents we ever had, as is likely to come down the pike.
Reagan's tough stance against communism, and his monumental role in bringing it down, was driven by his personal, visceral hatred of totalitarianism, human tyranny and oppression.
He managed the Cold War, a far graver threat than we now face, brilliantly, without shedding American blood to satisfy the Dr. Strangelove fantasies of the type of lunatics who always lurk at the fringes of a Presidency, trying to mislead the President into playing their insane wargames.
Guiliani can be effective, and McCain has his good points, but they are essentially authoritarian, big money, ego (as opposed to principle) driven personalities.
Isn't this all about the evils of authoritarianism? To me, it is. Why put another authoritarian in the one position where an authoritarian can do the most damage?
Angry old broad: great post, and powerful psychological point. That's the exact technique, making it personal to illustrate the point, that I find most effective when arguing with closeminded people.
The only thing that made me think, momentarily, more favorably about him was the "Say No to Alito" email I got from MoveOn.
ReplyDeleteTheir attack on him was so moronic, distorted, deceptive and intellectually dishonest that it gave me pause. Gosh, I said, what's the alternative? Are these the people I want to be selecting SC Justices? Hell, no.
So it's intellectually honest to think more favorably of someone because of a dishonest attack on him?
And what exactly was "moronic, distorted, deceptive and intellectually dishonest" about MoveOn's claims? According to FactCheck.org, "In summary, we find nothing false or seriously misleading in this ad. But as often happens, there is more to it than a one-sided, 30-second spot can cover fully."
Can someone please tell me why all Democrats who profess to care about the types of issues we discuss on this site are not enthusiastically for Feingold?
Who isn't enthusiastically for Feingold? He's very popular at sites like DailyKos. But few rank and file Dems know anything about him, and even those who think very highly of him worry about pragmatic "electability" issues.
Reagan's tough stance against communism, and his monumental role in bringing it down
Despite saying "tear down this wall", Reagan had virtually no roll in it coming down; you have swallowed the propaganda. And you're talking so glowingly about the guy who wished poor people to die of botulism, vetoed sanctions against apartheid, crushed popular uprisings against despots like Samoza, and propped up despots like D'Aubuisson, Rios Montt, Ferdinand Marcos, and, um, Saddam Hussein. You really should learn a bit more history.