And a reminder - I will be on C-SPAN's Washington Journal tomorrow morning from 7:45-8:30 a.m EST debating the NSA scandal with University of Virgnia Professor Robert Turner, about whom more can be read here. I really appreciate the comments and the e-mail suggestions for this debate. Depending on how the discussion goes, I intend to use a lot of them.
This clip of George Bush should be talked about all week -- why, if the Administration had all the legal authority in the world to eavesdrop without warrants and outside of FISA did it repeatedly make false statements to the public and to the Congress assuring us all that it was eavesdropping only in accordance with FISA? Parties make false statements in order to conceal their behavior only when their behavior is improper and wrong, not when it is justified and legal. And deliberately false statements of that sort from our government officials happen to be unacceptable and wrong, and really constitute a scandal unto itself.
At any point, they could have said -- without disclosing any operational details of any kind -- that they have authority under the AUMF or Article II to eavesdrop outside of FISA. Not only did they fail to do so (even as Congress was debating amendments to FISA based on the (false) assumption that the Administration was complying with it), they affirmatively misled Congress and the public by repeatedly proclaiming that they were complying with the law.
As I've said before, governmental law-breaking scandals are usually comprised of two components -- the law-breaking itself, followed by the false statements to conceal the wrongdoing. The law-breaking has received substantial attention thus far, but the deceitful cover-up has not. That ought to change tomorrow.
I will have long, continuously updated posts tomorrow as part of the live-blogging, so please feel free to leave your thoughts in comments as the hearings progress, where we can maintain an ongoing discussion.
UPDATE: After I wrote what I wrote above regarding the Bush clip, I see that Tim Russert asked Arlen Specter about this today on Meet the Press:
MR. RUSSERT: As you well know, this program began shortly after September 11, 2001. The President, when he ran for re-election in 2004 was up in the great city of Buffalo, New York, on April 20. And this is exactly what he said. Let’s watch.
(Videotape, April 20, 2004)
President GEORGE W. BUSH: Now, by the way, anytime you hear the United States government talking about wire tap, it requires—a wire tap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we’re talking about chasing down terrorists, we’re talking about getting a court order before we do so.
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: Was that misleading?
Gee, was it misleading? Just because the President said that "anytime you hear the United States Government talking about a wire tap, it . . . requires a court order. Nothing has changed" -- even though the Government had been eavesdropping for years without a warrant when he said this? Here is what Specter said in response:
SEN. SPECTER: Well, it depends on what the President had in mind. I think it’s a fair question for the President. If the President was talking about what goes on domestically in the United States, I think it is accurate. If he had in mind the entire program, including what goes on when one of the callers or recipients is overseas, it’s incorrect.
Anyone with any hopes that Specter is going to act with integrity or objectivity at the hearings should go ahead and accept that that's a total delusion so that you're not disappointed. That is an absurd defense. The President clearly was not talking only "about what goes on domestically in the United States." To the contrary, he specifically said that the Government obtains a warrant "anytime you hear the United States Government talking about a wire tap."
The President said: "I always do X," and Specter, to defend him from charges of lying, is basically saying: "Maybe he meant that he sometimes does X." For Specter to defend the President this way conclusively reflects that Specter, as usual, will make some noises about being indepedent, get everyone's hopes up that he will exercise his own judgment, and then fall back into line slavishly behind the President.
I expect there to be some aggressive and effective questioning from Republican Senators Brownback and Graham, as well as Kennedy, Feingold, and Durbin. Anything else will (pleasantly) surprise me.
UPDATE II: ReddHedd examines some interesting quotes from those who are defending the President, including an excerpt from Newsweek which reports that Sen. Feinstein, in pre-hearing briefings, has been asking the central question -- if the President has the unchecked authority to order eavesdropping on Americans, what are the limits, if any, of these unchecked powers?
That's really disappointing about Specter. Best of luck to you!
ReplyDeleteThis will be the place I'll be tuned in for my hearings coverage, Glenn - can't wait! Thanks for all the great work leading up to it. This blog has been both educational and inspiring, genuinely.
ReplyDeleteHope that all goes good for you (us)in the morning Glenn..... I would mention about all this hype that Spector has been spouting off about for the last couple of weeks and now seems to be changing his mind.....
ReplyDeletei dont hold out much hope for graham as i expect him to be very easy on the questions.
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Blog Swarm gathering on the NSA issue: State proclamations to force Congress to act. Deadline for Congress: 01 March 2006, after that the State level debates will pick up -- voters will have nine [9] months to digest what happens at the NSA hearing and find new leaders willing to assert their oaths.
ReplyDeleteI too expect nothing but Carnival Barker displays from Graham and Brownback. They'll sound authentic for a few minutes, and maybe throw a few telegraphed punches, but if past is prologue, they'll wind up their performances with whimpering irrelevance. And the worst of it is, that's the BRIGHT side of the Republican Leadership's opinion of the worth of a United States Senator's oath of office if he happens to "belong" to the Republican Political Party.
ReplyDeleteBut to Feingold, Durbin, and Kennedy: THANK YOU for listening to Glenn, and by proxy, to WE, THE PEOPLE. [Pat Leahy: where are you??]
And insofar as Brownback and Graham are actually listening to Glenn and treating his advice with respect: Thank YOU and your staffers, as well, for doing so.
I appreciate this indirect alert about who is listening, and who is not. Durbin is high-caliber, and Harry Reid would do well to start listening to Durbin's opinions and following his advice, in short order.
I'll try to provide any helpful feedback that I think of in response to the hearings, in the comments here.
Thanks so much, Glenn.
Glenn,
ReplyDeleteYou are completely wrong. The quote comes from Bush talking about the Patriot Act, which is primarily a domestic operation legislation.
For those taking notes on Gonzalez veracity, here is one disbarment effort and the TX Bar Disciplinary rules for your reference. Swarming on alleged perjury.
ReplyDeleteWhere is Leahy? Does he need a call in the AM, or would that be too late?
ReplyDeletehe's probably sick of me by now, but its; a mutual feeling. (I'm lucky though I get to vote for an independant for senate in Nov.)
Glen, do you ever get the sense that the Sen staffers have been infiltrated by wingers who are trying to quash questions before they get asked?
Thanks for your hard work on this.
I have been following this story and have came to the following conclusions:
ReplyDelete1. Rove and others are already know that Bush will loose legally on this issue in some shape matter or form.
2. Seeing that, his strategists are trying to make a winning message out of it. ( i.e. Bush will do anything to protect Americans.)
3. The only way to win politically on this issue is to follow my Rove reversing recipe:
A. Show how breaking constitutional law does not make Americans safer. "Bush breaking the law while spying on terrorists is going to let possible terrorists walk."
B. A message like this has to be trumpetted over and over again like Roves will be.
C. Bake for 2 days, stir and repeat.
MR. RUSSERT: As you well know, this program began shortly after September 11, 2001...
ReplyDeleteIs this accurate? When did this program begin? I'd like an answer to this.
Anyone with any hopes that Specter is going to act with integrity or objectivity at the hearings should go ahead and accept that that's a total delusion so that you're not disappointed. That is an absurd defense.
ReplyDeleteI am hoping Specter will be a bit tougher. He obviously cares enough about this to hold hearings in the first place. And he's paid his dues to the administration by successfully getting two Supreme Court nominees through the Senate. He may be able to be a little more independent now. I guess we will see.
Specter should have simply said, that whether the President lied depends on what the meaning of "Is" is.
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No one of any intelligence expects this to be anything other than another Republican partisan dog-and-pony show. Uncle Karl has presumably had a quiet little talk with Specter, just to make sure things go according to plan. A few Senators will get some free campaign time, costing us taxpayers yet another few million, principals will be called (but not put under oath), and the result will just be one more Republican whitewash. Expecting any Republican to care about anything more than staying aboard the K Street Gravy Train is a pipe dream.
ReplyDeleteYou did a wonderful job debunking that wingnut from UVa!! Keep up the EXCELLENT work!!!!
ReplyDeleteHeard you on C-Span. You made your case very well. Kudos to you. Question: supporters of the President are justifying his actions largely on the President's "inherent constitutional power." Isn't this the sort of constitutional authorization that many conservatives frequently deny in other areas, e.g., when they challenge the notion that the constitution contains a right of privacy?
ReplyDeleteIt is time for the dems to take the war to republican senator apologists for lawless one-party rule. Accuse them of aiding and abetting a partisan criminal coverup if they use this forum to defend the administration or Gonzalez. Gloves off. Bogus Senate "collegiality" cannot be an excuse for allowing the hearings to be part of the coverup, as ended up happening in the Iran-Contra, according to the Republican plan.
ReplyDeleteI thought Gonzales was working for us, the United States of America. I didn't realize he was hired as GW's personal defense attorney.
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