"Somehow you just got to go over the heads of the filter and speak directly to the American people" - George W. Bush, Oct. 2003
Allthough it hasn't managed to garner much attention, the FCC is currently investigating one of the most significant (at least to me) scandals of the Bush administration. The Independent reports that
Investigators from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) are seeking information about stations across the country after a report produced by a campaign group detailed the extraordinary extent of the use of such items.The Center for Media and Democracy's summary of the report (and the pdf of the report itself) can be read here. The extensive use of VNR's - PR commercials disguised as news reports - is quite alarming
The report, by the non-profit group Centre for Media and Democracy, found that over a 10-month period at least 77 television stations were making use of the faux news broadcasts, known as Video News Releases (VNRs). Not one told viewers who had produced the items.
"We know we only had partial access to these VNRs and yet we found 77 stations using them," said Diana Farsetta, one of the group's researchers. "I would say it's pretty extraordinary. The picture we found was much worse than we expected going into the investigation in terms of just how widely these get played and how frequently these pre-packaged segments are put on the air."
Over a ten-month period, the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) documented television newsrooms' use of 36 video news releases (VNRs)—a small sample of the thousands produced each year. CMD identified 77 television stations, from those in the largest to the smallest markets, that aired these VNRs or related satellite media tours (SMTs) in 98 separate instances, without disclosure to viewers. Collectively, these 77 stations reach more than half of the U.S. population. The VNRs and SMTs whose broadcast CMD documented were produced by three broadcast PR firms for 49 different clients, including General Motors, Intel, Pfizer and Capital One. In each case, these 77 television stations actively disguised the sponsored content to make it appear to be their own reporting. In almost all cases, stations failed to balance the clients' messages with independently-gathered footage or basic journalistic research. More than one-third of the time, stations aired the pre-packaged VNR in its entirety.But here is what bothers me about this story. We already knew this. Back in January of 2005, the New York Times reported that the Government Accountability Office (GAO) had found that these undisclosed VNR's constituted illegal "covert propaganda."
The Government Accountability Office, an investigative arm of Congress, said on Thursday that the Bush administration violated federal law by producing and distributing television news segments about the effects of drug use among young people.Several months later, the New York Times followed up with another report about the VNR's, this time detailing how extensive the use of this tax payer funded propaganda was.
The accountability office said the videos "constitute covert propaganda" because the government was not identified as the source of the materials, which were distributed by the Office of National Drug Control Policy. They were broadcast by nearly 300 television stations and reached 22 million households, the office said.
The accountability office does not have law enforcement powers, but its decisions on federal spending are usually considered authoritative.
In all, at least 20 federal agencies, including the Defense Department and the Census Bureau, have made and distributed hundreds of television news segments in the past four years, records and interviews show. Many were subsequently broadcast on local stations across the country without any acknowledgement of the government’s role in their production.As usual, the White House rejected any notion of accountability, with the Justice Department dismissing the "usually considered authoritative" on matters of federal spending GAO's report while asserting that the VNR's were legal.
Then, in October of last year, the Senate Commerce Committee passed a somewhat toothless bill, which as far as I can tell is still waiting for a vote, to require greater disclosure of VNR's.
This story came out at about the same time that it was revealed that the Bush administration had paid four journalists - Armstrong Williams, Michael McManus, Maggie Gallagher, and Dave Smith - to shill for various policies, and around the same time that it was discovered (by Americablog) that Jeff Gannon, a fake journalist/non-credentialed Republican operative, had been allowed two years of access to White House press briefings without being granted the security clearance which is necessary for such access.
So the question I would pose is thus: one year after it has been revealed that the press has been corrupted by "covert propaganda" why are we still even discussing this? Why have we not put a stop to this? I'm not being pedantic, either. I have my own ideas, but I'm honestly looking to encourage discussion on this topic. Why is it that the American public seems to not mind the manipulation of the truth in an effort to subvert democracy?
UPDATE: It's come to my attention that when I first posted this entry two links were missing - "covert propaganda" and "another report" - and they've subsequently been added back in. I would particularly recommend reading this New York Times article about just how extensively these faux news reports have seeped into the media (and here are few more examples of the lines being blurred between reporting and advertising). These stories are like commercials for the administration disguised as independent reporting.
In the comments some readers brought up the stir that was raised when it was found that the U.S. was planting news stories in Iraqi papers. Critics of this practice, like Chris Hitchens, observed that this propaganda could not help but be turned back on America, and not accidentally. In that Times report you can see that this practice had already been used on Americans, on purpose.
The explanation begins inside the White House, where the president’s communications advisers devised a strategy after Sept. 11, 2001, to encourage supportive news coverage of the fight against terrorism. The idea, they explained to reporters at the time, was to counter charges of American imperialism by generating accounts that emphasized American efforts to liberate and rebuild Afghanistan and Iraq.Addendum: Corrections to this post
An important instrument of this strategy was the Office of Broadcasting Services, a State Department unit of 30 or so editors and technicians whose typical duties include distributing video from news conferences. But in early 2002, with close editorial direction from the White House, the unit began producing narrated feature reports, many of them promoting American achievements in Afghanistan and Iraq and reinforcing the administration’s rationales for the invasions. These reports were then widely distributed in the United States and around the world for use by local television stations. In all, the State Department has produced 59 such segments.
United States law contains provisions intended to prevent the domestic dissemination of government propaganda. The 1948 Smith-Mundt Act, for example, allows Voice of America to broadcast pro-government news to foreign audiences, but not at home. Yet State Department officials said that law does not apply to the Office of Broadcasting Services. In any event, said Richard A. Boucher, a State Department spokesman: “Our goal is to put out facts and the truth. We’re not a propaganda agency.”
Well, if its any consolodation, we are also served by some "fake bloggers" that have nothing meaningful to say about the affairs they rant about - not refering to glenn.
ReplyDeleteJust making a general statement about the "I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express Crowd" that blogs 24/7 on subjects that they have no special insight or expertise - often, the posts are consistently proven wrong.
One of these so-called liberal/progressove blogs ended up in the "circle of links" and won an Internet award for 24/7 speculation that was consistently wrong about valarie plame. Just providing the forum attracted enough sheeple that they immediately became "experts" on EVERYTHING!
Of course America yawns when things are not covered in MSM and "fake news" in the MSM will not be covered by the MSM.
It isn't right, however, if the blogosphere is going to have the reach and ability to inform, it is going to have to do better than create "experts" in affiliation and style only.
If the goal is to do something about that "big yawn", then we will need the word to be spread by sources that provide access to the facts without proclaiming to be the final word in truth or "liberalism."
In other words - it will have to come from people that are not also just promoting themselves.
Why is it that the American public seems to not mind the manipulation of the truth in an effort to subvert democracy?
ReplyDeleteAns. Stupidity?
Too Stupid for Citizenship
Will Americans fall for Bush's lies again?
If we allow the Bush administration to drag this country into a war with Iran, we should all burn our voter-registration cards and go ahead and admit that we are no longer worthy of being citizens of a self-governing republic.
For heaven's sake, the administration is employing the same tactics it used to justify the war against Iraq – refusal to negotiate, lies, disinformation, and demonization of the Iranian leader. Are we going to fall for the exact same con job all over again? If so, we are far too dumb to be trusted near a voting booth.
Recently, a story was floated that the Iranians had passed legislation requiring religious minorities to wear an identifying badge. "Nazi, Nazi" cried the neocon warmongers. Trouble is, the story was completely false. No such legislation was passed, and this bit of disinformation was knocked askew by the representative of Iran's Jewish community in the Iranian Parliament.
The source of the story was an Iranian who had been a big shot when the Shah was in power and is now with a public-relations firm that represents – surprise – many of the neoconservatives......
When you consider the wars, the profligate spending, the out-of-control debt and trade deficits, the refusal to control the borders, the alienation of most of the world and the constant spitting on the Constitution and civil liberties, you can conclude that this administration is going to destroy the United States as we know it. I don't say that lightly. I never in a million years would have imagined that this administration would do what it's done.
So the question I would pose is thus: one year after it has been revealed that the press has been corrupted by "covert propaganda" why are we still even discussing this?
ReplyDeleteBecause we are at war and Bush is the War President.
Being at war is the reason that we can trample on the Constitution and talk about imprisoning journalists – so, in the larger scheme of things, engaging in “covert propaganda” is really not such a big deal – at least not as big as claiming the president does not have to obey the laws. And since he doesn’t have to obey laws, he can do what he wants to. Period. We are at war.
Sidney Blumenthal points out today that all of the “legal” theories now being used to promote an unlimited, lawless chief executive were actually developed before 9/11.
He explains how this “war paradigm” governs everything they do, and all of the abuses that this blog has been focused upon stem from this theory and are all dependent upon having a “permanent war.”
No wonder we had to invade Iraq, it was not only about oil, but about implementing these theories.
Indeed, Bush talked about invading Iraq and becoming a “War President” even before he was elected.
"He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. "It was on his mind. He said to me: 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.' He said, 'If I have a chance to invade·.if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency."
So, we invaded Iraq so Bush could build up political capital and become “successful” and, by being at war, Cheney could use that “war” to implement his (and Yoo’s) radical theories of unlimited Presidential power.
In this context, planting fake news stories is not that big a deal. Right?
Eyes Wide Open, not saying you are wrong, just questioning if it will be effective to solve these problems by throwing our hands up and saying, "well everyone else is too stupid."
ReplyDeleteuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
In fact, I know that won't help.
The folks that "catapult the propaganda" are not going to tell us the truth.
If we are going to have positive change, the "netroots" will have to grow from the bottom-up. Instead of ALL SNARK ALL THE TIME, information will need to be presented on the blogosphere in a manner that trusts people to make decisions themselves instead of "geeee, isn't everyone else a stupid moron."
In other words, the "liberal" versus "conservative" blogs are not going to reach across diverse people. Is educating more folks the key? Certainly. Is it going to happen in the current atmosphere? The bulk of this post and your comment suggest not.
Partisan blogs have their role - not saying they are bad. It probably is not possible to fairly present the truth in a manner that everyone will consider "unbiased" (that "reality has a liberal bias" thing).
Imagine what would happen if more sites presented information without linking to the same set of "SCREW YOU, look at me, I am right and you are wrong!" Websites.
After all, a patriot would not sit on the sidelines, swapping snark with the rest of the know-it-alls while refusing to actually carry the message in a reasonable, effective manner.
IMHO, some of the "superblogs" don't exist to do anything more than insult and provide a "brand" to sell crap and provide a false sense of balance to the "superblogs" on the other side of the debate.
In other words, its just all NO BLOG AND NO ACTION!
When you ask "why is it that the American public seems to not mind the manipulation of the truth in an effort to subvert democracy?" I think you are asking the wrong question. Let me explain by way of telling you about my step-sister. She's married, with two kids, a dog, and lives in a house that needs a lot of work. She and her husband both work and make just enough to get by. Last time I came by to visit, she knew I was a news junkie, so she turned on Fox News for me. Did she pick Fox because she's a right-winger? No – she just knew it was a news channel and was trying to be thoughtful. She's a very smart person, and she does try to follow what is going on in our country. But if you step back and think about it for a minute, that's quite a time-consuming project these days, as you won't get a real understanding (or even a glimpse) of the true challenges we face as a country by flipping on Fox or CNN for a few minutes. I imagine most Americans get their news the way my step-sister does – after work is done, dinner is cooked, eaten, and cleaned up, the dog is walked, the kids are put to bed, and she's had a few minutes to be with her husband – maybe, maybe she’ll watch the news for a little while. Or maybe, after an exhausting day, and worried about paying the bills, she might want to watch a sitcom instead of piling on the anxiety by diving into the almost unbelievable flood of truly bad news the country is drowning in. From US-sanctioned torture, to the continuing disaster in Iraq, to warrantless wiretapping, confrontation with Iran, the threat of global warming - the list goes on. With all of that in mind, are you really arguing that it's the fault of people like my step-sister that the country is not up in arms about these pre-packaged news stories?
ReplyDeleteI think it's grossly unfair to ask the question the way you do. The real question you need to be asking is why doesn't the mainstream media do any real investigative journalism anymore, and is instead content to broadcast pre-packaged corporate and government propaganda? With a mainstream media that has failed its civic responsibilities in many respects, ferreting out the truth requires us to become our own citizen-journalists. For most that is an incredibly tall order. In an economy that affords few people the time to do the kind of investigation and analysis that you do, I don't think it's right to lay this at the feet of the American public.
"I don't think it's right to lay this at the feet of the American public."
ReplyDeleteWho else is going to resolve this issue? Who else will hold the media and government accountable if not the public? Who is going to be responsible for the affairs of the republic, if not the American people?
We can identify the problems with the media. I'd say the most obvious problem is the corporatization of the media, with a handful of companies owning nearly all media in the country. We can also recognize that because the media is failing citizens that they are not getting the information they need to participate in the democratic process.
But once these problems have been identified, we have no one but ourselves to look to for rectification.
I have to weigh in with Mike T on this one. Most Americans simply don't follow the news that closely, and when they do, they get it from corrupted sources like Fox and MSNBC.
ReplyDeleteHeck, even reading the NY Times isn't enough to really get a handle on what's going on underneath the spin these days.
Those of us who spend much of the day digging into this stuff are the exception, not the rule.
To actually answer your question, hume's ghost. I think Americans are for the most part either unaware of this piece of news as well as of its larger significance in how it is trying to manipulate them.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like we're finally rising away, as a nation, from political cynicism and a meek and docile hope that our government was "protecting us," to true alarm at the simple fact that this adminstration simply does not have the majority of our interests in mind.
Mike T, excellent points. No, everyone else is not stupid and by asking the question in this manner, we guarantee that we will always be shrill voices on the sideline.
ReplyDeleteThat is why I am disappointed with the direction of the blogosphere -- we can help people be educated on the issues by presenting them what they need to know in a timely, palatable manner that accomodates more viewpoints.
That COULD be where "netroots" takes over -- some more credible, objective sites could pride quick snynopis of news, links to full articles, and links to analysis. It might be necessary to not have "comment" sections in order to maintain an appearance of credibility - but that is just an opinion, could be wrong.
Sure, sites like these exist now, but they get drowned out in the noise. Even a fairly openminded, fair site like UNCLAIMED TERRITORY prefers to consistently link to the same limited set of resources, all of which are more interested in promoting themselves than promoting the truth.
Remember, the MSM is either directly owned by the military-industrial complex or by global corporations that benefit from the neocon agenda. Its really not too hard to figure out why FAUX or NBC is so "unfair and unbalanced" when you look at the interests that they represent.
Americans would mind if they knew about it. Not everyone reads the New York Times. In fact, most people in the US don't read it. It's not covered on the TV news, or the local paper.
ReplyDeleteIt needs to be broadcast on the 4 minute news on FM radio during commute to work time for anyone to have heard about it.
hume's ghost -- AND WHO ARE WE GOING TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE FOR CARRYING THE MESSAGE!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteProclaiming everyone else is stupid and listen to you is a "dead on arrival" proposition.
When I want to educate others, how I say things is just as important as what I say. How about you?
I'm outraged out about the Bush Administration. I have no expectation of fair play, honesty, etc. I didn't much like it when the teacher was mad that so many were missing, and told those who came to class about it.
ReplyDeleteI'm tired of people railing at the Democrats for letting this happen. It happened to them too. The only thing I feel about that is that Clinton's seducability sure didn't help.
No, I'm not really mad at any of us. I'm kind of mad at George W. Bush for being a mouse. I'm pretty mad at the neocons from Cheney on down for being a bunch of self-deluded cowards. But, most of all, I'm mad at the religious lunatics - Muslim, Christian, and Jew who continue to destroy civilization century after century.
Talk about "fake news!" They win...
...we're finally rising away, as a nation, from political cynicism and a meek and docile hope that our government was "protecting us," to true alarm at the simple fact that this adminstration simply does not have the majority of our interests in mind.
ReplyDeleteMaybe, there are some hopeful signs. However, as long as people rely on the MSM they can "catapult the propaganda" and even if people don't believe it - the "echo chamber" creates the memes of the "energized base" that votes in improbably/impossible numbers and the neocons/repubs win again.
We do need free, verifiable, open elections for an educated public to have any influence. It is fine to make stinging comments about this here, I do my share.
The real question is how can we "package" that message for broader consumption?
After all, isn't it the "packaging" of the lies what really make it "propaganda"?
Won't we also have to tailor our messages for mass consumption?
I question whether the blogosphere, as we now know it, is capable of this.
If this message does not get the attention it deserves in the MSM (and it doesn't) then what are our choices? Are we using them wisely?
I would say glenn's new book (and the recent books of others) are a great start.
I've been thinking about how people could actually go about disputing this and other things. If you had a television channel, operated by the most trustworthy sources of information from the blogosphere, and had a side dish of satire, it might actually sink into the minds of the American public that we're sinking into authoritarian rule. There's nothing illegal about freedom of expression.
ReplyDeleteThe FCC is about to compound the problem by allowing more consolidation. Companies will now be able to own newspaper, radio and television within the same town. It is truly staggering what can happen to a country when a corrupt and dangerous administration packs the courts and federal regulatory agencies with carefully selected cronies. How quickly serious damage can be done, and what a long time it will take to repair. At the same time they are indoctrinating the populace and creating more and more sheep who meekly accept the lies and distortions that they are fed.
ReplyDeleteMike, I understand your point about your step-sister. The Bush administration has everything to gain and nothing to lose by keeping people in a perpetual state of having to struggle to keep food on the table and health insurance for their families. Gives them less time and energy to think and act independently. Couple that with government propaganda coming from the television, radio and newspapers, and it isn't a hopeful scenario.
We need a progressive alliance with very deep pockets to purchase or create a 24 hour news channel that counters the lies and misinformation that are continually pumped out by F@#&s News, MSNBC and CNN. Al, if you won't run in 2008, do you think you can take this on along with Global Warming? If anyone can do it, it is you!
What exactly can we do?
ReplyDeleteI don't even watch television news -- haven't done so since 2001. I attempt to support reliable news sources -- which means certain websites, a few alternative newspapers, and the foreign press.
Mike T gets it:
"With a mainstream media that has failed its civic responsibilities in many respects, ferreting out the truth requires us to become our own citizen-journalists. For most that is an incredibly tall order."
Uh....it's a bit of a silly question. Or rather an important one that has been unanswered, in one form or another, for many years. Silly only because there is no answer except people don't care very much, aren't extremely educated, and prefer the couch to the library.
ReplyDeleteI mean...you may as well as why people believe politicians or television, or any advertisements at all; you may as well ask why most of the youth are not taught real history, or ask....or.....or.....or....
I think it's ridiculous to excuse the citizenry (as some are doing here) by saying "they're intelligent but, uh, they think fox news is good" etc. I mean....I'm sorry, but you can't be both smart and think Fox makes sense. You have to be willfully delusional. Especially at this point in the game.
Via, what is the point of alienating people by having a channel that is a "progressive alliance"
ReplyDeletePeople will say that the truth is "liberal" as it is -- why hold this up as a lightening rod?
You are right about the need for another TV news source, someone that would actually present things fairly, do some real reporting, not "catapult the propaganda" and not "balance" the inconvenient truths with lies.
Course, I am not sure that will be an option - so in the meantime the net would have to be used as real "grassroots/netroots".
I don't think the superblogs are doing this and the way the endlessly link back and forth is not helping. But I guess it sells a bunch of crap and strokes a few egos.
I think what some miss is the fact the wingnut blogs already have the MSM catapulting the propaganda.
On the other side, the dialog needs to be more open and reach across broader groups. It cannot be about a few dominant personalities because we need to educate and inform people, providing an alternative to the propaganda.
I'm sorry, but you can't be both smart and think Fox makes sense.
ReplyDeleteNor can you be both smart and proclaim to the world that everyone else is an idiot. It is foolish to the extreme to think that will change anything.
Go ahead, pretent that if everyone would just read FDL, atrios, and the faux "advertise liberally" circle of links - everyone would be geniuses. Boy, now there is a moronic thought.
Excuse me, but isn't it the television stations that independently decide whether to use such VNR film footage and what they say or disclose about the footage?
ReplyDeleteIsn't your beef with the news organization's using the stuff without attribution rather than with the government that produces these PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS??
Shouldn't you be calling for laws requiring private news organizations to censor this material?? Aren't you just trying to force your programming decisions onto the private companies that choose IF and HOW to use this footage?
Says the "Dog"
Does anyone know the law that makes this illegal? Or is that what the FCC is investigating and does adjudication of this propagandizing fall under its charter?
ReplyDeleteThis issue was also covered in 2004 when the Bush admin was found breaking the same in its push for Medicare reform.
USA Today also reported on the practice of paying reporters and pundits to write articles supporting its policies.
Free Press provides two sites that give you a chance to register your outrage over this propaganda effort. They also report that Kerry and Lautenberg introduced legislation against this type of propaganzing in 2005.
Anon, I think we at some point must rely on and make an appeal to thinking, reasoning life in this country. There must be some still out there! If not, we are sunk. People are beginning to understand that a lying, thieving cabal has hijacked this nation. They are ready to hear the proof. The facts that those of us reading this blog understand, by virtue of having done the reading, are still new concepts to many, many people. Remember how it felt when you began to read FDL and UT and Steve Soto? Wasn't it like you had been held underwater until your lungs were bursting, and had broken the surface into the sunlight and oxygen and took that first heady gasp? Put Keith Olbermann in an anchor chair and give him the truth to report........I don't care how you label the network. People will tune in once for whatever the reason, and they won't be able to leave the room. The truth is so outrageous and shocking- as they say, you
ReplyDeletejust can't make this stuff up - and people are ready to hear it. There would be lynching parties in front of the White House and Congress. Cheney would have the jackboots storming the newsroom to shut us up.
Several months later, the New York Times followed up with another report about the VNR's, this time detailing how extensive the use of this tax payer funded propaganda was.
ReplyDeleteThe key word here is was.
Have there been any recent reports of VNRs being used? If there were recent examples that this practice is still rampant, or active, then this would be a much bigger story.
Yes, it should be a bigger story, I agree; but if we had recent examples of this practice, then it would suddenly get a lot more attention. But even then, it may not stop.
Why have we not put a stop to this?.
For the same reason, we haven’t been able to stop this administration’s other legal wrongdoings – their radical theories of unlimited power have never been tested or even made it to the courts. If Congress did pass a law, Bush would just add a “signing statement” saying he doesn’t have to abide by the law, and since it isn’t a formal “legal” challenge, there is no “legal” determination of whether or not he can do this.
For this reason, even if the Democrats take back Congress in November nothing much will change. They can call for investigations, but Bush won’t cooperate. They can pass laws, but Bush will not follow them, citing his new-found powers that puts him above the law.
And for this same reason, we will be going to war with Iran – regardless of what the American people or Congress decides. An additional war will also hinder any Congressional-based, media-based, or public-based challenges to what this administration is doing. In his mind, a new war will give him more “political capital” to spend – and a new war is thus necessary.
All of the old rules no longer apply – we have entered a new era, and until Bush is out of office we will continue to be in this era of lawlessness controlled by “radical right-wing renegades” unaccountable to anyone.
The American public does not understand the issue because the the people that are supppoosed to explain and frame the issue (the media) ARE COMPLICIT in the spreading of propoganda in the first place...
ReplyDeleteWhat do you really think the media is going to admit it was less than honest with the American public on an almost daily basis for a short period of time....they would lose all public trust (although they are oding a fine job of that even othout this scandal)
The only way you, me and millions of other American have found about this issue is thru the blogsphere.
and thank god for that....
Americans are yet to understand the depth of this scandal and if they truly did they would be more than a little upset .....
With this administration, it's always "just hold on until we get one more election under our belt". On the other hand, WHEN IF NOT NOW?
ReplyDeleteThe lure of 'emergency powers' is just too great to resist, as Glenn quoted some Justice as having stated. Bush and Cheney will keep creating emergencies, even up to the point of disrupting and postponing elections, I predict, if they feel threatened enough by Democrats possibly taking control of the House and Senate.
ReplyDeleteWe have become a society of bread and circuses. In a time of grave peril to all--from both man-made and environmental (and man-made environmental)causes--we have been weaned away from an appetite for real news and habituated instead to a razzle-dazzle hullaballoo of simplistic, context-free and dumbed-down headline news, partisan boosterism disguised as "objective news," celebrity gossip, movie box-office results, America Idol fascination, and "reality tv" (sic) voyeurism.
ReplyDeleteMost Americans lack the time or inclination to study world events with any depth, or at all, and in any event few citizens ever learn skills of critical thinking or analysis. (In my high school, "Logic" was a one-term course available ONLY in the 12th grade and ONLY to Advanced Placement students. It seems to me that Logic should be, along with grammar, math, and the sciences, required of and available to ALL students THROUGHOUT the school years, from K to 12.)
Who is to blame? We all are, and the government and the media as well. How can this be remedied? Despite the offense taken here by some at "blaming" the public, the only way we will ever get honest media presentation or good government is by public outcry and demand. It is OUR country, after all, OUR democracy, OUR lives in the crucible.
The powers that be have succeeded in leeching away from the citizenry any sense that politics has any connection to our daily lives, or that we have any influence over the decisions made which will affect us. Cynicism, apathy, complacency, ignorance, hopelessness, distraction...these are all attitudes which lead to a citizenry which does not vote and which does not pay attention to what our purported "representatives" do to us and in our name.
The public can be and will be moved to act only when our lives are so negatively affected by prevailing social and political trends that we cannot fail to notice both the ailment AND its agency. (Carl Sagan's last book, THE DEMON HAUNTED WORLD, is a wonderful, if sobering, examination of the myriad ways in which we are beguiled by "magical thinking," by belief in irrational superstitions and illogical ideas, the net effect of which is that many of us live in a dream world, our ill-founded beliefs serving both to insulate us from and distort our perceptions of the reality which buffets us about.)
The questions is: when the affliction is so far along it its progression that it becomes noticably symptomatic, will it be too late to arrest and reverse it?
I am not sanguine about our chances for salvaging our society as we have known it. I think this century will see catastrophic upheavals, and the shape of the world, and of human society, for good or ill, will likely be unrecognizably changed by year 2101.
The only way you, me and millions of other American have found about this issue is thru the blogsphere.
ReplyDeleteActually, I read it in the New York Times when they reported on it last year. But the folks at the CMD have pointed out that they've been covering this issue since the early '90s.
I'm wondering what happened in the last 15 years to all those news desk editors who thought VNRs were spawns of Satan
The CMD's PDF report addresses that. Stations lack the resources to do investigative journalism is the gist of it.
The American people are in a complicated form of denial. It has layers like an onion. If they start peeling, it's gonna be painful. That is why America yawns. We are like the guy who hasn't accepted he has to join AA yet. Loose cannon. For the American people to accept that our country ( our identity) is anything less than the Disney Land USA we think we are threatens us with a huge identity crisis. How many ads have we all seen that end, "because you deserve it" ? Amercans cannot ask the quesion: "Ya mean I DON'T deserve it ...ALL?" We say collectively: "Our country doesn't have propaganda. Our country doesn't torture. The good old USA is free, not a police state. The world loves our movies and our 'kick the shit out of a situation first with our big cowyboy boots and think later' persona." Yup. Swagger. Why do you think Bush swaggers? It is for us, we elected him. He swaggers to help us by saying we don't need those stinkin AA meetings. Only problem is that we are hitting bottom as a people. We have a trashy view of anyone who isn't just like us, trashy view of sexuality (people are produce) and a trashy view of what it means to share resources. We, my friends, exemplify that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Bush is jut the logo. That is why we do not face who we are as it manifests in everything from wire tapping to yawning in the face of propaganda and onward. "Naw.....there's no problem, we're America!"
ReplyDeleteThe public may be only marginally involved with the news on a daily basis but there is a sense of outrage than can be tapped if things get bad enough. The key is that we continue to hold the media outlets themselves accountable when they get caught lying. The AP story about Harry Reid is a good example. Link to TPM
ReplyDeleteThe religious right has already proven that you can get a lot of attention for what's otherwise a minority opinion with coordinated complaining. And if the particular complaint is a politely worded request to stop lying, it might just work.
I agree with much that has been said about the complicity of the media and the simple lack of time in most people's lives to spend looking behind the media's choices. There are some sociological and philosophical issues as well. We are a society barraged with advertisements. We know them to be slanted and filled with lies told for profit. We expect that and think little of it. So how is it a surprise that we expect the same thing of our politicians and media corporations? Thus we think little of it with they lie. I have no more hope that George Bush will tell me the truth about what he wants to do for his own aggrandizement and profit than I do that Exxon will tell me the truth about global warming. They profit by lying, so they lie. They no doubt think of it as protecting their livelihood for the sake of their families, and we are so used to it, even sympathetic to it, that outrage about it seems absurd.
ReplyDeleteFurther, behind the everyday experience that everybody is lying for profit and self-promotion, there is the deeper problem of wondering what objectivity would look like, and even being suspicious of the claim of objectivity--think of "fair and balanced." In a society where the most reliable strategy for identifying sincerity is to "follow the money," we don't have much of an accounting for why anybody would be disinterested enough to tell the truth, even leaving aside their involuntary biases. Our entire capitalist society is based on the proposition that enlightened self-interest is what drives prosperity. There's not really any philosophical room for people who tell the truth against their self-interest. Who would those people be? We would like to think that they are people of integrity, or perhaps people with a passionate attachment to reality in the style of a natural scientist, but what room is there for such people in a capitalist society? When someone claims objectivity for themselves, more often than not, they are sending a signal that they know themselves to be lying for profit. Again, think "fair and balanced." Or think of the claims of "patriotism" from people on the right who are willing to destroy our Constitution to assuage their own terrors. Anytime anyone is claiming disinterestedness, they are usually very interested indeed. So, where can actual disinterestedness live? We have no place for it, so we are unsurprised when the lack of it is exposed over and over again.
phd9, The only place the msm is held to account in in the blogosphere (y! sctp!)
ReplyDeleteUnless you are a reader, you are continually ingesting lies that are never challenged. It is so very rare that our Democratic leadership ever rebuts the misinformation that is spread hourly, repeatedly by the msm anchors. A progressive television station could broadcast 24 hours a day simply by refuting the crap that is churned out continually by MSNBC, F*$%s and CNN.
I see anonymous at 9:58am beat me to it. I have yet to see any coverage of this story by, for example, the LA Times or CNN.com - I don't have a television - so how is the average person going to know about it? The TV networks certainly aren't going to come out and announce that they've been running government propaganda as if it were news.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous at 11:57 brings up a pertinent point: the prevalance of advertising in our culture. Only in a society whose language is so corrupted by ad-speak could a President utter a locution such as, "Read My lips: No New Taxes!" and be taken for anything more than either a hopeless simpleton or an artless fraud, (or both).
ReplyDeleteWe are inundated with ads, ad-speak, and ad-thought. We have no time time to separate the nutritious from the meretricious, the puerile from the pure, the unadulterated from the adulterated, or the true from the false. We come to accept that all language is mutable, all ideas fungible, all "truth" provisional. We cannot be shocked by or take offense at the blatant lies of our media or public officials, as the sense that there is an obligation to hew to the facts, to be truthful, is becoming anachronistic.
I think it serves the interests of the powers that be to undermine the faith of the public in the veracity of ALL public language, as this removes from the minds of people even the capacity to consider that there IS truth, or that our public officials are expected to operate according to what is known, rather that to what is believed.
"The Dog" sez:
ReplyDeleteIsn't your beef with the news organization's using the stuff without attribution rather than with the government that produces these PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS??
They aren't "public service announcements". They're propaganda. Dishonest (by omission, to begin with). Political shilling for the maladministration. That's illegal.
Yes, the stations should be honest in attribution when carrying them (a public broadcast license carries some responsibilities; it's a privilege and not a right), but the gummint ought not be using taxpayer dollars to make them.
Cheers,
The TV networks certainly aren't going to come out and announce that they've been running government propaganda as if it were news.
ReplyDeleteI'd settle for them to just stop doing it.....
Anonymous: We are a society barraged with advertisements. We know them to be slanted and filled with lies told for profit. We expect that and think little of it. So how is it a surprise that we expect the same thing of our politicians and media corporations? Thus we think little of it with they lie.
ReplyDeleteI think this might be a key. Is there an assumption in America yawns that the propaganda is effective? Or is the "yawn" the expresion of American's knowing it is propaganda?
The polls would suggest the latter. And if the VNR's are having no effect, then maybe the question should be: Why has the puplic not responded to the massive waste of dollars? After all, these are dollars being spent by the administration to effect what must be a preceived need in the administrations eye and yet are not producing the results as gaged by the polls.
Thus, with all the illegal stuff that is happening, are we seeing the public actually performing as good citizens and ignoring what should be ignored while focusing on the more basic constructs of this nations structure. IOW, are we seeing the public understand that the real harm to this nation is in the dismissal of the constitution vs VNR's that are just part of the method to break the constitution?
From shooter242 at 12:39PM:
ReplyDelete"As for why the public isn't particularly worried about it, let me count the ways...." Followed by shooter242 once again displaying a complete disconnect from linguistic coherence or factual reality.
Shooter, why does the fact a "Public Service Announcement" is by its very title a completely different animal from "Video News Releases" not register for you? Just answer me that.
davidbyron,
ReplyDeleteThere are huge numbers of people out there who do not even know what a blog IS. They turn on the television while they drink a Coke for breakfast and head out the door for work for Chrissake. They are going to watch something. Would you rather it be Fox or a progressive alternative that might strike a chord with them? We are all preaching to the choir here in the blogs. We need to reach those that don't or won't read. No one wants to be cheated and abused and laughed at, to boot, and once they see what this administration is doing to them, they are going to be pissed to high heaven.
Thanks for all the thoughtful responses to my comment. I'd like to address Hume's Ghost's (double-possessive?) comment:
ReplyDelete"Who else is going to resolve this issue? Who else will hold the media and government accountable if not the public? Who is going to be responsible for the affairs of the republic, if not the American people?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that what you're looking for here is some sort of organizing and response on a mass political level to the issue of "corporatization of the media" - good luck with that. I'm not denying the importance of the issue. My point is that, with the limited time your average person has for political causes, and other competing concerns like Bush's shredding of the Constitution, multiple crises in the Middle East, the increasingly unstable condition of our economy, and possible future worldwide chaos brought on by global warming and rising sea levels, etc., etc., I don't think the problems with corporate media would make most folks' top 10 list for the things that keep them up at night. Expecting nationwide outrage on something that garnered a relatively small smattering of newspaper stories spread out over several months, and AFAIK, precious little television coverage, is, I think, just a tad unrealistic.
It's perfectly fine and valid to be angry about this issue. And it's an admirable and worthy thing for you to educate the public by blogging about it. I certainly learned a few things reading your post. And that makes my point: I'm an avid reader of news and blogs, and even I didn't have the full picture until I read your post. So it simply strikes me as absurd to expect the public to already be in a state of rage about this issue. It also strikes me as a remarkably condescending way to address the people you're trying educate and persuade.
davidbyron:
ReplyDeleteI think the answer is that we need both TV and internet. And I completely agree, the internet is the next battle that is going to be pitched, and we need to be mobilized. I believe, though, that there is a vast reservoir of humanity out there that gets its 'news' from television only, and we cannot afford to let them continue to get only what the msm is feeding them.
"Why is it that the American public seems to not mind the manipulation of the truth in an effort to subvert democracy?"
ReplyDeleteI think the question is defective on two counts. First, there is no evidence that the "public" does not mind. Just the opposite, the public appears to be leaving the MSM in droves for blogs like these.
Second, it is for the editors and the journalists themselves to express outrage and then do something about it. I don't work for a news agency - there is nothing I can do short of vote with my eyeballs. I can only hope that editors and journalists will see an opportunity to begin their own vehicles that can act with integrity, shorn of the malodious influence of large corporate ownership.
I would think the internet would make that more of a logistical problem than and economic one. In any case, surely the independent traditional vehicles can see a competitive opportunity to effectivly challenge their better funded opponents with better a beter editorial effort.
I would also point out the coverage over at TPM Muckraker of John Solomon of AP who appears to be wholly inventing story lines about Sen. Reid without the help of governmental sponsorship (at least I assume that is the case).
Don't kid yourself. Sites like Think Progress, Talking Points Memo, Huffington Post, Truthdig, Crooks and Liars, etc., are the real news outlets now, as is Unclaimed Territory. I have no problem with that.
Pay particular attention to TPM Muckraker where actual gum shoe journalism is carried out in addition to contextual coverage. This is how it is going to happen.
And I have no problem with treating MSNBC or CNN or WP as the PR outlets that they are. We are fortunate that they have zero chance of being able to get away with this crap anymore.
I would like to draw a distinction between what the government is doing and what business is doing.
ReplyDeleteI am in the business of helping companies get their message to consumers through "news segments."
These segments are hosted by an expert qualified spokesperson paid by my company and they have the right to reject a product they would not endorse.
The product is used as an example in the segment and the company pays us to be that "example."
The information is researched and accurate about the topic and the product.
The television station is told in advance that products will be featured and who they are. They also have the right to ask us for no product mention and we always respect that, because the information we are giving always applys to the story.
Sometimes the stations will mention the sponsors and sometimes they do not.
Is this illegitamate? Subversive? Underhanded? I don't think so. If that is true, then every time a celebrity is interviewed should the host say the segment is sponsored by Paramount Pictures?
When you think of it, every star, every author, every celebrity of any stature is advertising their product.
Most stories on new health discoveries are put out by PR companies that represent the company that made the breakthrough. Is that wrong?
We do not do VNR's but we do Satellite Media Tours and In Studio tours. WE ALWAYS DISCLOSE paid content.
What's the difference between that and a news anchor interviewing Ken Melman or Howard Dean? Both are paid spokespersons for their organizations.
The Bush Administration is in the wrong for non-disclosure/propaganda, But the PR companies and little companies like mine and the companies who are trying to promote their products, books, DVD's, etc. What's wrong with that, if in doing so you show a clear public benefit?
Product placement and promotion is how business is done in this country. Almost any product you see on any TV show, Movie, Website is bought and paid for by the companies.
And all this "noise" is slowing putting my little company out of business.
Mr Ghost:
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect to your case and subsequent outrage, I'd suggest that framing the question as a call for more laws to punish the media for not behaving as you'd like isn't the most viable and ethical way to approach this issue.
"Let's force the media to be more objective" is a goal that will be impossible to achieve. Force will only insure that those wielding it will get their story told...and regardless of whether or not you like the particular story, it puts us right where we are now. This is presuming that "truth" and "objectivity" are really the desired outcome as opposed to propaganda approved by you.
I suggest that the only sensible and ethical path that can be taken is to demand that our government stop spending our money to try and further brainwash us. It makes no sense to overlook that the material is made with taxpayer money and then to punish the dupes who utilize it (for whatever reason they do).
In addition, I think you might find it a little more difficult for the dogs and shooters to disagree with the premise...because in so doing, they'll have to repudiate their "conservative" beliefs in favor of bald-faced apologizing for unprincipled brainwashing.
I'd suggest that framing the question as a call for more laws to punish the media for not behaving as you'd like isn't the most viable and ethical way to approach this issue.
ReplyDeleteThe question I asked was "Why have we not put a stop to this?"
First, there is arguably no need to call for any laws to "punish" the media in regards to gov't vnr's because they might already be illegal. This is what the GAO found.
Secondly, the only requirement that would be necessary to stop covert propaganda would be some sort of mandatory disclosure rule. I hardly see how this would be unethichal punishment of media outlets.
I said nothing about "forcing objectivity" on the media. I suggested that we should not tolerate covert propaganda, especially not tax payer funded covert propaganda.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that what you're looking for here is some sort of organizing and response on a mass political level to the issue of "corporatization of the media" - good luck with that.
ReplyDeleteI'm looking for the media to be reformed. I'm not sure why that is any more an absurd a goal than any other poltical issue; or why this would be viewed as something that is beyond achieving. Undoing the deregulatory rollbacks of the FCC would be a good start.
I don't think the problems with corporate media would make most folks' top 10 list for the things that keep them up at night.
Then that is a reflection of our failure as a society to educate citizens about how our democratic system of government works.
Liberal democracy is dependent on the marketplace of ideas and upon an informed citizenry being able to discuss those ideas and pool their intelligence to decide what the best course of action might be.
It is nearly axiomatic that you can not have democracy without a free press to create that marketplace of ideas. IF the government can manipulate, narrow, or restrict the flow of information, then it can subvert democracy. This theme was better developed in the last link I provided. IF the press becomes an arm of the government, a tool to push an ideological agenda, then the very foundations of democracy are threatened.
Expecting nationwide outrage on something that garnered a relatively small smattering of newspaper stories spread out over several months, and AFAIK, precious little television coverage, is, I think, just a tad unrealistic.
I do not expect outrage over this particular story. I expect outrage over the larger pattern of the manipulation of the flow of information that this is a part of.
It also strikes me as a remarkably condescending way to address the people you're trying educate and persuade
Duly taken into consideration.
vmckimmey said, "...apologia for trying to sell product messages..."
ReplyDeleteWhile there may not be anything subversive or underhanded, as such, in a company trying "to get its message to the public," (I hate such phrasing...be honest and admit you're trying to sell something), it becomes underhanded and subversive when there is no sponsor identification. While this is primarily the responsibility of the local broadcast station and the specific news program to make such a sponsorship identification, I think it is a tad disingenuous for you to absolve your company or your clients from all responsibility. After all, why would a company pay to have its products or services discussed on a news program, rather than in an advertisement? Because there is an implicit trust and lack of skepticisim by the public to messages it hears on a "news" program...it is this which makes such outlets so attractive to companies trying to sell their wares to the public. If it is not openly discussed, I'm sure there is an implicit understanding that such open identification need not be made, or that it preferably not be. If the company wanted to insure it was being totally above-board, it could always put a little visual banner in one corner of the screen througout the segment promoting its wares, just as many stations do when promoting their other programming.
Of course, the government has absolutely no business making VNRs or trying to promote its agenda invisibly.
Zack said...
ReplyDelete"In this context, planting fake news stories is not that big a deal. Right?"
It's all a big deal Zack. I think the thing that boggles the mind most is the constant massive push in all directions against our civil liberties and indeed everything that this country has stood for, for over two hundred years.
One of the first goals in any authoritarian takeover is to take control of the media. If you can control what the public sees and hears then you have a large portion of the battle won.
It's all a big deal Zack. I think the thing that boggles the mind most is the constant massive push in all directions against our civil liberties and indeed everything that this country has stood for, for over two hundred years.
ReplyDeleteOh, I couldn’t agree more. It’s just that the attack is so “massive” as you say that this particular outrage tends to get lost among the others.
It’s gotten so bad that even judicial conservatives that were part of the Bush administration are getting concerned.
Here is Mark Corrallo former spokesman for Attorney General Ashcroft:
"This is the most reckless abuse of power I have seen in years," Mr. Corallo said in an interview. "They really should be ashamed of themselves."
The New York Times article continues with this observation:
Specialists in journalism and First Amendment law said that Mr. Corallo's statement was itself significant evidence of a shift.
"This illustrates in an unmistakable fashion," said Mark Feldstein, director of the journalism program at George Washington University, "that the Gonzales Justice Department has moved so far away from the mainstream of established legal opinion and case law when it comes to press freedom that even judicial conservatives are disturbed by it."
This won’t be a major story either, but they’re all important and all indicators of how far wrong things have gone in a very short time.
From shooter242 at 7:44PM:
ReplyDelete"After all, this whole post was generated by a press release. How many news organizations are going to admit they don't actually do news, they just pass along someone else's work?"
You really don't get it, do you? And there's no way I can make you understand is there?
You can't understand the difference between a news release produced by a media outlet, a Public Service Announcement about forest safety, and taxpayer-financed propaganda in the service of a specific agenda, can you? To you, its just information from different sources.
You probably don't appreciate the difference between 'coercive interrogation' and 'torture' either.
Never mind answering. I'd likely have better luck trying to convince Roy Moore the Bill of Rights applies to all 50 US States, including Alabama.
I would just add for Zack on whether this type of paid-for propaganda still goes on:
ReplyDeleteThe recent news of stories being planted in International News syndicates for the sole purpose of filtering back (or being referenced by) U.S media outlets. Most recently in Iraq this had become a significant problem. Don't know for sure, but think Rumsfeld had a major role in this to counter the terrorist's own publicity in the Middle East.
I suppose the fits the general M.O. of the administration: If they need a message OUT - - they make it themselves and distribute. Repeat as necessary to accomplish desired result.
Isnt this what the White House Iraq Group specialized in with their own personal leaks to newspapers which then they cite on sunday news shows as support for their own planted BS?? How ridiculous is that? Let's see...plant a news story in the NYT via Judy Miller using classified information...and then site the NYT for support for some position as if the newspaper had independetly discovered this information - when chatting on Fox news. The dumb americans watching won't know, and if they check the NYT..sure enough, there's the story citing "anonymous high ranking officials...or 'Former hill staffers'
Its insulting to be an American under this administration. Everyone should be insulted and Pi**ed off. If you don't find something fundamentally wrong with this there is a major disconnect between your brain and your mind. Just my two cents.
Have there been any recent reports of VNRs being used? If there were recent examples that this practice is still rampant, or active, then this would be a much bigger story.
ReplyDeleteI missed this comment earlier. The CMD's report itself indicates that this is rampant and active, which is why the FCC is investigating.
Farsetta, who wrote the report for CMD, noted that they did not even have full acces to the VNRs.
We know we only had partial access to these VNRs and yet we found 77 stations using them," said Diana Farsetta, one of the group's researchers. "I would say it's pretty extraordinary. The picture we found was much worse than we expected going into the investigation in terms of just how widely these get played and how frequently these pre-packaged segments are put on the air."
Plus, there have been other notable examples of reporting which blurs the line between journalism and advertising which suggests that this problem is systemic.
In January, Michael Fumento was fired from Scripps Howard News Service after it was discovered that he had failed to disclose payments he had received from Monsanto.
In Dec., Peter Ferrara and Douglas Bandow were found to have taken money from Jack Abramoff to write op-ed's favorable to Abramoff's clients without disclosing the payment. While Bandow expressed contrition for his ethical lapse, Ferrara saw nothing wrong with his actions:
Peter Ferrara, a senior policy adviser at the conservative Institute for Policy Innovation, says he, too, took money from Abramoff to write op-ed pieces boosting the lobbyist's clients. "I do that all the time," Ferrara says. "I've done that in the past, and I'll do it in the future."
Hume:
ReplyDeleteExactly what law does government distribution video press releases violate?
Exactly how are these releases "propaganda?" Do they lie in some way?
Exactly how does this "subvert democracy?" I someone being denied the right to vote?
Inquiring minds want to know...
vmckimmey said...
ReplyDelete"Most stories on new health discoveries are put out by PR companies that represent the company that made the breakthrough. Is that wrong?"
If you can't see what is wrong with that, that is part of the problem.
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ReplyDeleteThanks, Bart. That made me notice I was missing two links, which I've added back in.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe I didn't notice not having those two. The second NYT's report is vital to understanding how extensive this practice is.
"A properly functioning democracy depends on a news media that is free of any conflicts-of-interest, especially with the government that it is supposed to be holding accountable."
ReplyDeleteIn late June 2005 the U.S. House of Representatives approved an amendment barring the White House and federal agencies for one year from contracting with PR firms and journalists to secretly promote policies through the use of fake news. "The passage of this amendment is a critical victory for the American people who, as a result of these secret government contracts with writers, broadcasters, and public relations specialists, have been unable to determine whether they are receiving real, objective news or government-sponsored propaganda," said Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY), who chairs the Future of American Media Caucus and sponsored the amendment.
Exactly what law does government distribution video press releases violate?
ReplyDeleteSee here.
Exactly how are these releases "propaganda?" Do they lie in some way?
They are "covert propaganda" because their source is undisclosed. They are lies in the sense that they were crafted to deceive, to appear as if they are independent news reports.
Exactly how does this "subvert democracy?" I someone being denied the right to vote?
I answered this in that link. People vote as informed citizens. If you can manipulate the dissemination of information, than you can manipulate the voter. By failing to disclose the source of these VNRs, the voter is being withheld information that might affect his vote.
Hume's Ghost said...
ReplyDeleteBart: Exactly what law does government distribution video press releases violate?
See here.
The budgetary provision cited states: “No part of any appropriation contained in this or any other Act shall be used for publicity or propaganda purposes within the United States not heretofore authorized by the Congress.”
The GAO concluded: "Seven of the eight
VNRs include prepackaged news stories. As explained below, we conclude that the prepackaged news stories in these VNRs constitute covert propaganda and violated the publicity or propaganda prohibition because ONDCP did not identify itself to the viewing audience as the producer and distributor of these prepackaged news stories."
Bart: Exactly how are these releases "propaganda?" Do they lie in some way?
They are "covert propaganda" because their source is undisclosed. They are lies in the sense that they were crafted to deceive, to appear as if they are independent news reports.
In other words, the government is providing appraently truthful news releases, not propaganda, which the press outlets chose to falsely claim as their own.
Bart: Exactly how does this "subvert democracy?" I someone being denied the right to vote?
I answered this in that link. People vote as informed citizens. If you can manipulate the dissemination of information, than you can manipulate the voter. By failing to disclose the source of these VNRs, the voter is being withheld information that might affect his vote.
Huh? How exactly is providing more truthful information for the voters to consider make for less informed citizens?
The implication behind your argument is that people might decline to believe the apparently truthful information if they knew it was provided by the government. Let us accept that proposition for the sake of argument. How is providing truthful information, which apparently the press was not reporting, in a way that would cause people to disbelieve it going to provide for a more informed citizenry?
As soon as you come up some actual "propaganda" lies, let me know.
As soon as you come up some actual "propaganda" lies, let me know.
ReplyDeleteSo if a Democrat is elected President and wants to promote his or her policies spinning them in the best light, writes the scripts, films interviews with only the people that agree with the policy and does not disclose that they produced this slick packaged material themselves and then distributed to news outlets – then it’s fine, just fine with our resident Republican trolls.
Of course if this actually happened they’d be screaming bloody murder and scandal and calling for impeachment and making comparison to Nazi propaganda – but if Bush does it, then it’s fine, nothing to see here, let’s just move along.
Oh, the smell of hypocrisy this morning is particularly pungent for some reason.
Bart, propaganda is not necessarily untrue...it is simply advertising or p.r. for one's preferred point of view..."getting the message to consumers," as vmckimmey put it.
ReplyDeleteMy uncle, now retired, owned a large advertising agency in Florida, a very successful agency, and, I might add, he is a staunch Republican and, as far as I know, still a Bush supporter. Once I made a comment to him about his being a propagandist, and his son-in-law reacted as if I'd insulted him, (not angrily, but he thought my remark was off the mark). My uncle, to the contrary, accepted the truth of my remark and acknowledged that, yes, advertising is propaganda.
Is advertising false? Some of it, certainly, but not all of it. An advertisement is a polemic, as is a newspaper editorial or a defense attorney's (or prosecutor's) summation before a juty: it emphasizes (when it does not invent) those qualities which will tend to make the product or service being advertised appear more desirable or valuable, and it deemphasizes or passes over information which may tend to devalue the product or service in some way, or at least make it appear less "special" than is desired.
Propaganda which is identified as such is fine; the consumer of the information can take into account he or she is reading or seeing a partisan presentation of information, and can then compare the information gleaned against word of mouth consumer opinions, or some other information from non-partisan sources. When the propaganda is unidentified as such, when it is presented as supposedly "objective" discussion or analysis by a source with no partisan interest in selling a particular product, service, or point of view, the innate skepticism of the consumer is, to use Li'l Butch's parlance, "catapulted" over. The consumer will tend to credit a source which appears neutral and dispassionate, moreso than when the source of the information is obviously an interested party, "has a dog in the fight," as you yourself have said.
You may say, well, it's up to the viewers or readers to make their own appraisals of the value of the information, but, as a defense attorney, you know full well human psychology does not work this way. If the government wishes to present its point of view on a policy, it should do so openly; it should stand behind its policies and views and give citizens the opportunity to consider the information knowing its source.
By hiding behind VNRs, the appearance is certainly created that the information so presented is fishy, and even if it's not, it prevents citizens from being able to make FULLY informed choices as to what to do with the information as the source is concealed.
That's some masterfully sophistic reframing there, Bart.
ReplyDeleteAlthough it has a largely negative connotation, propaganda is not necessarily true or false, propaganda advances a position.
THe New York TImes piece makes it clear that these VNRs were made to "sell" various administration positions. That makes it propaganda. They were designed to appear as if they were independent news reports and were run without disclosure, that makes it covert.
"How is providing truthful information, which apparently the press was not reporting, in a way that would cause people to disbelieve it going to provide for a more informed citizenry?"
This is another sophistic reframe. Its not about providing information in a way that would cause them to disbelieve true information, its about providing information in a fashion that facilitates being able to determine whether or not the information is true in the first place.
Hume's Ghost said...
ReplyDeleteAlthough it has a largely negative connotation, propaganda is not necessarily true or false, propaganda advances a position.
There is no agreed upon definition about what the term "propaganda" means. The terms gains popular usage when applied to Axis communications which were usually a mixture of truth and lie.
You would use a the broadest possible definition of "propaganda" as communications of fact which advance a position. However, such a definition is untenable because any fact communicated by the government can advance a position.
For example, census data can and are used to advance a variety of positions. Are they propaganda?
Bart: "How is providing truthful information, which apparently the press was not reporting, in a way that would cause people to disbelieve it going to provide for a more informed citizenry?"
This is another sophistic reframe. Its not about providing information in a way that would cause them to disbelieve true information, its about providing information in a fashion that facilitates being able to determine whether or not the information is true in the first place.
Seriously, how do you figure?
Do you recognize a differnce between an informecial and an idependent report of the product? If KEvin Tredeaa writes a "review" of his book Natural Cures as it a third party was reviewing and a paper ran that would you see say that requiring it to be disclosed that Tredeau was the author was "providing truthful information ... in a way that would cause people to disbelieve it."
ReplyDeleteHWSNBN is clueless:
ReplyDeleteThere is no agreed upon definition about what the term "propaganda" means. The terms gains popular usage when applied to Axis communications which were usually a mixture of truth and lie.
Ummm, nope. It came from the Catholic Church. The Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith (Sacra Congregatio de Propaganda Fide). Its connotation is "intended to persuade" (evangelise, for the original organisation).
As pointed out, the propaganda doesn't always have to be true (or false), just persuasive, intended to induce a certain viewpoint.
You would use a the broadest possible definition of "propaganda" as communications of fact which advance a position. However, such a definition is untenable because any fact communicated by the government can advance a position.
Not so fast. It doesn't have to be a "fact", not at all. Not to mention, not everyone agrees as to what the "facts" are. Facts can be presented in a slanted and/or incomplete manner to advocate a position, and bogus "facts" can be advanced as facts.
Which is why it is useful to know what the source is for a particular presentation of "facts"; as a "criminal prosecutor", HWSNBN ought to be well aware of the necessity to investigate bias and veracity of proponents of purported "facts" (as well as the usefulness of original and/or other sources to doublecheck such "facts"). Why he thinks this is not worthwhile here is beyond me ... actually, no, it's not ... HWSNBN is a dishonest person, and is willing to argue a position he knows to be flawed as long as it suits his ultimate objectives in this instance, that is to say, the defence of the maladministration ... you know, almost the very definition of "propaganda".
Cheers,
Hume's Ghost said...
ReplyDeleteDo you recognize a differnce between an informecial and an idependent report of the product? If KEvin Tredeaa writes a "review" of his book Natural Cures as it a third party was reviewing and a paper ran that would you see say that requiring it to be disclosed that Tredeau was the author was "providing truthful information ... in a way that would cause people to disbelieve it."
No one claims that the information provided in these releases was false in any way.
As I posted before, your argument is essentially that the truth is somehow misleading because media consumers might give the truth more or less credibility if they knew the source was the government rather than the press.
This is akin to denying media consumers the right to prejudice against the messenger.
So long as the government is not spreading false information, I simply cannot get worked up over this. This is a press ethics question. No one forced the press to publish these facts without attribution.
As much as I think this is a lazy way of starting a comment:
ReplyDeleteFrom Webster
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect
No one claims that the information provided in these releases was false in any way.
ReplyDeleteFrom the New York Times:
The script suggested that local anchors lead into the report with this line: "In December, President Bush signed into law the first-ever prescription drug benefit for people with Medicare." In the segment, Mr. Bush is shown signing the legislation as Ms. Ryan describes the new benefits and reports that "all people with Medicare will be able to get coverage that will lower their prescription drug spending."
The segment made no mention of the many critics who decry the law as an expensive gift to the pharmaceutical industry. The G.A.O. found that the segment was "not strictly factual," that it contained "notable omissions" and that it amounted to "a favorable report" about a controversial program.
bart: "your argument is essentially that the truth is somehow misleading because media consumers might give the truth more or less credibility if they knew the source was the government rather than the press."
ReplyDeleteBart simply does not know what the word propaganda means. He does not understand the definition or the concept. Therefore, his argument will never make sense. Even when it is explained to him in plain English, he ignores the explanation or makes up a new argument that no one made so he can shoot it down. He doesn't want to acknowledge the truth because it will make him look foolish. No one is falling for his frightening justifications for every instance of deceit in service of "the greater Republican good," so in the end I guess it's all right. Bart keeps coming back here to get beat up day after day. He must be very frustrated.
Oops - I hate when I hit "publish" instead of "preview" -
ReplyDeleteI also hate it when I get dragged away for an hour and half in the middle of a comment...
Bart, to suggest, as you do above, that there is nothing disingenuous about the government merely providing "the facts" or "the truth" is entirely and willfully misleading and way more ignorant that I would give you credit for, or impugn you with, your choice.
Nothing in the definition of propoganda requires a lie, just that the presentation of information is such that it is intentionally biased towards a particular viewpoint. Which I suppose is okay with you cause this happens to be your viewpoint?
Just imagine if the Clinton administration was paying James Carville to appear on NBC news without ever mentioning that the reason for his salary was to support the Clinton administration's positions on key issues. I cannot for the life of me imagine that you would be anything less than apoplectic over this. I would be pretty furious, too, as a matter of fact. As I am now.
And the omission of the souce of the funding, whether by the media, or the producers, is a classic case of a "lie by omission," making your argument that these are "facts" arguably imprecise from the outset.
Also, if you read the stories, the "reporters" are presented as "having the story," implying that there are people investigating the situation and coming away with some type of objective viewpoint. They are, in fact, actors, who are presenting a viewpoint that is not meant to impart objectivity, but to further a particular viewpoint. There is no need to "lie" in order to do this. If I go to Iraq with the agenda of publishing stories about the wonders of power plant rebuilding in a war torn country, and in fact my salary depends upon my production of such a story, then I will produce that story. This is not "reporting."
Shooter: This is pretty funny all in all, starting with the observation that this hoo-ha about government news releases was initiated by A GOVERNMENT NEWS RELEASE.
Back in January of 2005, the New York Times reported that the Government Accountability Office (GAO) had found that these undisclosed VNR's constituted illegal "covert propaganda."
Ummm, your point being? The fact that one government agency (at one point highly regarded for its non-partisanship, I don't know about recently) exposes the wrong-doing and blatant manipulation of public opinion of another branch or agency is somehow: (a) a laughing matter; or, (b)excuses the initial wrongdoing is just an entirely dunderheaded idea. Thank God someone in the GAO has some integrity, because if the Bush administration has anything to say about it, the person responsible for that report better start watching his pension and job security.
"all people with Medicare will be able to get coverage that will lower their prescription drug spending."
ReplyDeleteAKAIK, you have to pay a premium for coverage to enroll (it's a bit like "insurance"). Thus those that enroll but who do not have significant (or any) drug expenditure will actually end up paying more overall. Now that's a pretty much essential feature of even fair insurance plans, but it means that thsi statement isn't quite ... true. And that's just one objection: It hardly mentions that the plan also prohibits collective bargaining and importation, other options that might have reduced expenses more. In fact, the plan is a big sop to the drug industries in cutting the legs out of some that wanted to bargain for cheaper drugs.
Cheers,
Back in January of 2005, the New York Times reported that the Government Accountability Office (GAO) had found that these undisclosed VNR's constituted illegal "covert propaganda."
ReplyDeleteThe GAO is a branch of Congress, not the executive. Hardly an example of "self-policing".
Cheers,
Hume's Ghost said...
ReplyDeleteBart: No one claims that the information provided in these releases was false in any way.
From the New York Times:
The script suggested that local anchors lead into the report with this line: "In December, President Bush signed into law the first-ever prescription drug benefit for people with Medicare."
This is absolutely true.
In the segment, Mr. Bush is shown signing the legislation as Ms. Ryan describes the new benefits and reports that "all people with Medicare will be able to get coverage that will lower their prescription drug spending."
This is also true.
The segment made no mention of the many critics who decry the law as an expensive gift to the pharmaceutical industry. The G.A.O. found that the segment was "not strictly factual," that it contained "notable omissions" and that it amounted to "a favorable report" about a controversial program.
How was the segment "not strictly factual?"
The fact that the report did not include the opinion of partisan opponents of the President "who decry the law as an expensive gift to the pharmaceutical industry" make the facts communicated any less true?
Indeed, the government would be communicating propaganda if it released partisan opinions like that. You know, the same kind of political propaganda included in the supposedly objective reporting of the NYT.
nick said...
ReplyDeleteNothing in the definition of propoganda requires a lie, just that the presentation of information is such that it is intentionally biased towards a particular viewpoint.
Once again, how can true facts be biased? For example, the actual communication which AL finds a threat to our democracy simply and correctly observes that the Medicare drug entitlement was the first of its kind and will provide a subsidy for drugs for Medicare beneficiaries.
I completely oppose the Medicare drug entitlement as a boondoggle. However, I have a very difficult time seeing these statements as propaganda.
Propaganda to me would be if the communication instructed the announcer to say that: "Mr. Bush saved thousands of our elderly from having to choose between buying food or their medicine when he signed the new Medicare drug entitlement."
Just imagine if the Clinton administration was paying James Carville to appear on NBC news without ever mentioning that the reason for his salary was to support the Clinton administration's positions on key issues.
I have never heard either the interviewing reporters or Mr. Carville ever disclose that he was a paid shill for the Donkey party. You can judge that by what he says, which was pure propaganda.
I simply do not hear any Carvillisms in the government press releases we are discussing today.
Bart said, "The fact that the report did not include the opinion of partisan opponents of the President "who decry the law as an expensive gift to the pharmaceutical industry" make the facts communicated any less true?
ReplyDeleteIndeed, the government would be communicating propaganda if it released partisan opinions like that. You know, the same kind of political propaganda included in the supposedly objective reporting of the NYT."
Bart, are you truly this obtuse, or do you merely pretend to be? In either case, it does not reflect well on your capacity to think or argue.
If the Administration comes out and openly makes such an announcement as described above, one simply takes it for what it's worth, and one knows the administration will present their new bill or policy in the most favorable light, because, obviously, they wouldn't be presenting the bill if they didn't WANT it to pass. They WANT favorable public opinion on the matter.
If the information, as such, is presented as a news story, supposedly researched and put together by reporters with no ties to any parties who might benefit by the new policy...in other words, if it is presumably put forth by objective third parties, one might well assume there are NO critics of the new bill or its provisions. That there were many vocal critics of the bill's provisions and costs--this is the one where the official was threatened with being fired if he revealed the actual costs of the bill, which the Bush administration knowingly misrepresented to the public and to Congress--that there were such controversies would be EXPECTED to be discussed by a news report, as opposed to a public relations press release.
For a refersher on those controversies, see here:
http://www.interesting-people.org/
archives/interesting-people/200403/
msg00119.html
and also here:
http://www.americanprogress.org/
site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=37095
(And who says critics of the bill are just "partisan opponents of the President?" You're making an unsupported assertion, and the implication, if you believe your own rhetoric, is that you believe there can be NO non-partisan criticism of this administration or its policies.)
A news organ would be expected and required--in the interests of informing the public--to report not just the positive claims of the bill's backers but the criticisms of the bill's opponents. This gives citizens a context within which to appraise the merits or faults of the bill. What you apparently consider "bias" is actually journalism as it's supposed to work. You say the government would be communicating propaganda if it included opposing opinions to the bill along with their own positive claims. Well, aside from the fact that we don't KNOW it's the government giving us the information, (and you apparently take as a given that the criticisms by opponents were NOT factual), a truly open and fair-minded administration WOULD provide citizens with the full spectrum of opinion on the bill, again, to allow for a fully informed public.
Hell, aside from the deceptions of the administration as to the true costs of the program, now that the program has kicked in, there are numerous reports to this day of senior citizens with complaints about the new program--that it's confusing, that it's not saving them the money they thought, or that it doesn't cover what they thought, or even that it's costing them more, and so on. I'm sure you can't be unaware of such reports. The program IS a gift to the pharmaceutical industry, and is not intended as a boon for senior citizens, which is how it was presented.
Here's one story from early on regarding the unpleasant reality of the new program for at least some elderly:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/
news04/2006/01/medicare_chaos.html
Now, do I claim the program is a disaster for ALL senior citizens? No, because I don't know that. My own parents have not reported any problems. But complaints by program participants are out there and they are numerous. But, the government's press release--presented as a press STORY--gave no hint there were criticisms raised in opposition to the bill prior to its passing which have proved to be prescient.
You can define propaganda in any narrow way you wish, just as the government has defined torture so narrowly that abuse which is manifestly torture is seen "legally" as NOT torture, but that doesn't change one iota that these fake news releases are absolutely propaganda.
maha - you are a basket case. Shame on glenn for turning his blog over to you.
ReplyDeleteThere's a fine account of Bush's propaganda by Daniel Shulman at Columbia Journalism Review, Mind Games. I've been meaning to write something about state propaganda, prompted by this article, and will eventually.
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