As the Administration parades around one defense after the next to justify and excuse its violations of FISA -- that it was done for our own good, that it was only done against "really bad people," that the law wasn’t broad enough for them to comply with, etc. – opponents of the Administration’s law-breaking have been attempting to emphasize that the President, like all other citizens, is required to obey the law, and that it is not an excuse to claim, once he’s caught violating it, that he broke the law for a good reason.
And, as one would expect, there are lots of stirring testaments to the paramount importance of the rule of law which have been delivered by Republicans, who insist, with great moral courage, that there are no excuses or justifications for the President of the United States to violate the law. A President who violates the law, they argue, destroys the rule of law and violates every one of our Founding principles, and must be punished. It's true that most of them argued this in 1998 when advocating Bill Clinton’s impeachment for violating the law against perjury, but surely this steadfast devotion to the rule of law hasn’t waned any in just short seven short years.
Indeed, there is really no point in anyone writing any more about the importance of the rule of law and why it is so dangerous and intolerable to allow the President to violate the law. The Republicans who argued in favor of Bill Clinton’s impeachment have already advanced these very arguments as compellingly and eloquently as they can be expressed. All that remains is to prod them to apply these principles – in which they believed so righteously only seven years ago – to the individual who is currently occupying that office.
The pure applicability to today of these thunderous speeches of principle is truly overwhelming:
Rep. JC Watts - (R-OK)
[T]here is no joy sometimes in upholding the law. It is so unpleasant sometimes that we hire other people to do it for us. Ask the police or judges -- it is tiring and thankless, but we know it must be done. Because if we do not point at lawlessness, our children cannot see it.
If we do not label lawlessness, our children cannot recognize it. And if we do not punish lawlessness, our children will not believe it. So if someone were to ask me, "J.C., why do you vote for, why did you vote for the articles of impeachment?" I would say, "I did it for our children."
Rep. Tom Delay (R-TX)
I believe that this nation sits at a crossroads. One direction points to the higher road of the rule of law. Sometimes hard, sometimes unpleasant, this path relies on truth, justice and the rigorous application of the principle that no man is above the law. Now, the other road is the path of least resistance. This is where we start making exceptions to our laws based on poll numbers and spin control. This is when we pitch the law completely overboard when the mood fits us, when we ignore the facts in order to cover up the truth.
Shall we follow the rule of law and do our constitutional duty no matter unpleasant, or shall we follow the path of least resistance, close our eyes to the potential lawbreaking, forgive and forget, move on and tear an unfixable hole in our legal system? No man is above the law, and no man is below the law. That's the principle that we all hold very dear in this country.
Rep Dick Armey (R-TX)
How did this great nation of the 1990s come to be? It all happened Mr. Speaker, because freedom works. . . . But freedom, Mr. Speaker, freedom depends upon something. The rule of law. And that's why this solemn occasion is so important. For today we are here to defend the rule of law. . . .
If we ignore this evidence, I believe we undermine the rule of law that is so important that all America is. Mr. Speaker, a nation of laws cannot be ruled by a person who breaks the law.
Otherwise, it would be as if we had one set of rules for the leaders and another for the governed. We would have one standard for the powerful, the popular and the wealthy, and another for everyone else. This would belie our ideal that we have equal justice under the law. That would weaken the rule of law and leave our children and grandchildren with a very poor legacy.
I don't know what challenges they will face in their time, but I do know they need to face those challenges with the greatest constitutional security and the soundest rule of fair and equal law available in the history of the world. And I don't want us to risk their losing that. . . .
Christopher Cox - (R-CA)
Every single man and woman in Operation Desert Fox at this very moment is held to a higher standard than their commander in chief. Let us raise the standard of our American leader to the level of his troops. Let us once again respect the institution of the presidency. Let us see to it indeed what the censure resolution says merely in words, that no man is above the law. Let us not fail in our duty. Let us restore honor to our country. . . .
House Impeachment Manager Stephen Bryer (R-IN)
A core function of the government derives its role from the social contract that our civilized society has under which a fundamental exchange of rights takes place.
We give up the right to exercise brute force to settle disputes, a situation where chaos reigns and the strongest most often prevail. Instead, we submit to the power delegated to the state under which an individual then submits, to the governmental processes as part of the social contract. Indeed, when conflict arises in our society, we as individuals are compelled via the social contract to take disputes to our third branch of government, the courts. The judicial branch of government then peacefully decides which party is entitled to judgement in their favor after a full presentation of truthful evidence.
Implicit in the social contract that we enter into as a civilized society is the principle that the weak are equally entitled as the strong to equal justice under law. Despite the tumbling tides of politics, ours is a government of laws and not men. It was the inspired vision of our Founding Fathers that the Judicial, Legislative, and Executive branches of government would work together to preserve the rule of law. The United States Constitution requires the judicial branch to apply the law equally and fairly to both the weak and the strong.
Once we as a society— and particularly our leaders— no longer submit to the social contract, and no longer pay deference to our third branch of government— which is equally as important as the legislative and executive branches of the government we begin to erode the rule of law and begin to erode the social contract of the great American experiment. . . .
Our President, who is our chief executive and chief law enforcement officer and who alone is delegated the task under our Constitution to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed," cannot and must not be permitted to engage in such an assault on the administration of justice. The Articles of Impeachment adopted by the House of Representatives establish an abuse of the public trust and betrayal of the social contract in that the President is alleged to have repeatedly placed his personal interests above the public interest and violated his Constitutional duty.
For if he is allowed to escape conviction by the Senate, we would allow our President to set the example for lawlessness and corruption. We would allow our President to serve as an example of the erosion of the concept of the social contract embraced and embodied by our Constitution. I don't believe this Senate will allow that to happen. . .
"The whole of the executive branch acts subordinately to the command of the President in the administration of federal laws, so long as they act within the terms of those laws. Their offices confer no right to violate the laws, whether they take the form of constitution, statute, or treaty." . . . .In The Imperial Presidency, Professor Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. states: "The continuation of a lawbreaker as chief magistrate would be a strange way to exemplify law and order at home or to demonstrate American probity before the world." By a conviction, the Senate will be upholding the high calling of law enforcement in protecting the rule of law and equal justice under the law. . . . .
We are seeking to defend the rule of law. America is a "government of laws, and not of men." What protects us from the knock on the door in the middle of the night? The law. What ensures the rights of the weak and the powerless against the powerful? The law. What provides rights to the poor against the rich? The law. What upholds the rightness of the minority view against the popular, but wrong? The law.
Rep. Robert Goodlatte (R-CA)
Since it is the rule of law that guides us, we must ask ourselves what happens to our nation if the rule of law is ignored, cheapened or violated, especially at the highest level of government. Consider the words of former Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, who was particularly insightful on this point. "In a government of laws, the existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously.
For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. If government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the law. It invites every man to become a law unto himself." Mr. Chairman, we must ask ourselves what our failure to uphold the rule of law will say to the nation, and most especially to our children, who must trust us to leave them a civilized nation where justice is respected. . . .
If we truly respect the presidency, we cannot allow the president to be above the law. . . .
I have heard from many constituents who are deeply concerned that action be taken in this matter, and I appreciate them sharing their thoughts. One of those constituents is a 12-year- old sixth grade student from Linkhorn (sp) Middle School in Lynchburg, Virginia named Paul Inge (sp).
He recently wrote, "I am a Boy Scout who is concerned about the leadership of the president of the United States of America. It is my understanding that other ordinary citizens who lie under oath are prosecuted. The president should not be any different. He should also have to obey the laws. As a Boy Scout, I have learned that persons of good character are trustworthy and obedient. I feel that the character of the president should be at least as good as the leaders that I follow in my local troop and community. Is this too much to ask of our country's leaders?"
The precious legacy entrusted to us by our founders and our constituents is a nation dedicated to the ideal of freedom and equality for all her people. This committee must decide whether we will maintain our commitment to the rule of law and pass this precious legacy to our children and grandchildren, or whether we will bow to the political pressure for the sake of convenience or expediency.
Much of our hopes and dreams for our children, like Paul Inge, and for the integrity of our nation, depends on the answer to that question. Our Founding Fathers established this nationon a fundamental yet at the time untested idea that a nation should be governednot by the whims of any man but by the rule of law. Implicit in that idea is the principle that no one is above the law, including the chief executive.
Please, every media person everywhere, shove these up every Republican ass you can find. No condom, no lube. Just shove these quotes right up there,
ReplyDeleteYes I agree very much with the first comment. Please, please, please. Every democrat politician everywhere please begin immediately discussing impeachment of President Bush for protecting us. Please I urge you do all you can to get your impeachment views into the MSM. Please be sure to require every democratic candidate for national office to express their view that when the Democrats take over the house in 2006 that the first thing they will do is bring impeachment charges against president Bush.
ReplyDeleteI beg you please continue to be just this hysterical and against protecting our country, please continue to brag about killing the Patriot Act, and above all else please keep demanding the impeachment of President Bush for surveillance so unobtrusive nobody knew about it until some criminals leaked it, for wanting the Patriot Act Passed, and for having the brazen temerity to stand before the country and declare yes I have sought to protect you in the past, I am seeking to protect you now, and I will continue to protect for as long as I am president. Absolutely this can not be tolerated by any right thinking american. Please, please, please keep talking about how you want the President impeached for this behavior!!!!
Gary
The hypocrisy is really hard to stand. How do they justify this to themselves? Really? Any wingnuts here?
ReplyDeleteAnon/Gary, sadly, most closely fits that label in these parts. He seems to be a lawyer, and seems to have sufficient understanding of the law to know that Bush simply has broken it. Yet, he continues an unrelenting defense of Bush, in the face of overwhelming legal arguments -- many made by Republican Con Law scholars -- against the President.
Another sad thing is that he may be correct about one point; it would be hard to impeach Bush given how he would spin this: "I'm just protecting you." The average Joe and Jane Sixpack will neither understand nor care about the rule of law in such a complex context, and won't see how "snooping on the terrorists" is a big deal when there is no judicial oversight. Perjury about sex is straightforward. Even some mildly retarded people can grasp that crime. But illegal surveillance under claims of the Executive's inherent authority to flout Congress are not sufficiently Oprah.
I voted for Bush, and subscribe to a conservative jurisprudence. In my view, the best hope for making this deplorable situation end is that Republican scholars, lawyers and statesmen -- who do understand what is at stake -- would push the issue. That seems to be happening; whether they can reach a critical mass, I don't know.
High and low I've sought to find an answer to the question of who has standing to sue in a case like this, where those surveilled do not know it. All I've found is bright lawyers scratching their heads. Impeachment might indeed be the only way to get at the issue.
Hypatia, Bush did not break the law; his actions are consistent with similar actions taken by Clinton and Carter (Clinton not even for foreign intelligence which is really illegal). Bush has the authority, and I'll bet you $1,000 if it ever gets to the Supreme Court there is no way even the black robed high priests will rule his actions inappropriate. They won't and they can't.
ReplyDeleteI'm not the only one who thinks no big deal on this. The country appreciates a leader with the guts to stand up and say "Yes I protected you in the past, I'm protecting you now, and I will continue to protect you as long as I'm President and I don't care how many beanie wearing, paranoid, guilty rich white liberals complain the sky is falling, the sky is falling, I'm still going to protect you."
From Rasmussen Reports Today (Rasmussen's polls were the closest to the final vote in the 2004 election by far).
Gentleman, start your propellers:
64% of total population, 51% of Democrats and 57% of Independents ALL SUPPORT THE NSA SURVEILLANCE BY THE PRESIDENT.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/NSA.htm
December 28, 2005--Sixty-four percent (64%) of Americans believe the National Security Agency (NSA) should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorism suspects in other countries and people living in the United States. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that just 23% disagree.
Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans say they are following the NSA story somewhat or very closely.
Just 26% believe President Bush is the first to authorize a program like the one currently in the news. Forty-eight percent (48%) say he is not while 26% are not sure. Eighty-one percent (81%) of Republicans believe the NSA should be allowed to listen in on conversations between terror suspects and people living in the United States. That view is shared by 51% of Democrats and 57% of those not affiliated with either major political party.
Denny Hastert for President in 2006!
ReplyDeleteAnon/Gary: I have sought to protect you in the past, I am seeking to protect you now, and I will continue to protect for as long as I am president.
ReplyDeleteThe very words of dictatorship -- so soothing, so protective, so illegal.
Yet another case of rightwing crazies being soft on crime.
ANON (10:35 PM): Gentleman, start your propellers:
ReplyDeleteHit the dirt! Incoming crazy rightwing talking points! So predictable. So inadequate.
As Ezra notes:
...This question is just bizarre (or, to use the right word, biased). It's like gauging support for Bush's tax cuts by asking "Should the President lower your tax burden while stimulating the economy, encouraging growth, and reducing the deficit?" The question is so utopian as to be nonsensical.
There is a question that needs to be asked, though, and it's answer would be illuminating. And despite what the rightwing spinmeisters are trying to argue, it's the only question in this case:
"Should the National Security Agency be allowed to secretly spy on Americans without any oversight?"
Or, alternately:
"Do you believe the NSA should be able to listen in on your phone calls and read your e-mails without oversight, probable cause, or a warrant?"
I am seeking to protect you now, and I will continue to protect for as long as I am president.
ReplyDeleteIf he was after real criminals, why didn't he get warrants? That's the way to go -- if you've got nothing to hide.
He wasn't after criminals. That the failed law enforcement approach that brought us the "wall" and 9/11, in other words that's the democratic/Clinton response to being attacked.
ReplyDeleteBushis not seeking to punish people for a crime, after the fact, he is trying to protect us from foreign agents carrying out attacks on USA soil. Quite a different matter entirely. We don't want to put these people on trial, we need to stop them and then with any luck KILL them. There contribution to the DNA gene pool in the world should be find a permanent solution.
Gary
Anon/Gary: He wasn't after criminals. That the failed law enforcement approach that brought us the "wall" and 9/11, in other words that's the democratic/Clinton response to being attacked.
ReplyDeleteThis argument is nothing but unadorned authoritarianism. It's no more protective of our lives and liberties than any other policy emanating from this bumbling wannabe dictator. We're long past the day when the suppression of our rights was considered more efficient for anything.
The bottom line is, real men get warrants. Wimps and psychopaths try to work the system.
Ayn Rand would be shocked to see Cuffy Meigs in the Oval office but no one on the right seems to care.
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